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Steve g 
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Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 1:55pm |
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Asking for input. Have a cat D2 pony motor gas tank it's about the size of standard cookie jar. It's probably a gallon, gallon a half tank. Anyhow inside the tank is pretty rusty so I'm asking input on just putting bee/bees in it and shake around wash it out with muriatic acid or doing some kind of coating process thanks to all
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Boss Man
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Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 2:30pm |
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Weather you roll the BB's ( some use stones other nuts and bolts) around to get the loose stuff or you wash with acid you will want to put a sealer on the inside once done. The acid strips the oils out of the metal and will start to rust if not coated
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DiyDave
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Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 5:38pm |
If you can bolt or clamp the tank to a wheel, and do some work with the machine the wheel is attached to, it does a pretty good job of cleaning. Also if you put a chain, of some sort, in the tank, insteada loose junk, it will be easy to remove, and be assured that there is nothing loose left in there to vex you in the future.
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Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 7:03pm |
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I used milkstone remover in a tank for a 170 gas recently. Started out using apple cider vinegar for about a week, and while this helped, it didn't get it as clean as I hoped. I filled the tank almost full of water and then poured in half a gallon of milkstone remover and filled it to the brim with water and left it for 24 hours. Then drained the milkstone/water and neutralized it with baking soda and water for a couple hours, moving the tank around to coat the inside. After draining the tank again, I used a hot powerwasher with a 90 degree end on a wand to rinse out the baking soda/water. I was real pleased on how clean the tank was. I put in a bit of E85 to absorb the little bit of water i had left in the tank. I used ATF and diesel mixture to coat the inside after getting the tank emptied and dried out to prevent rusting. This tank had old dried up gas and rust in it, real nasty looking, and its looking real good now.
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Posted: 29 Nov 2020 at 8:27pm |
If it's just rusty and dirty, I would skip the muriatic acid, and put in 1/4" nuts, rather than BBs. Nuts have somewhat more squared edges, so they'll scrape it.
I'd put the tank in some sort of rotisserie that'd tumble the nuts for a couple days, stopping it and re-orienting it's angle every four-five hours or so.... dump it out, rinse it with gasoline, then put it back in service...
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 7:00am |
If its only a gallon or so, why not pick up an inexpensive universal tank? With a little research, you probably could find a small Plastic fuel tank from a Garden Tractor and bolt it on. Then you don't have to mess with acids and such. A Plastic tank will last longer, and no worries about rust. Just a thought...... HTH. Steve@B&B
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 1:09pm |
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Steve has a GREAT IDEA if you dont need original... I normally fill the tanks with rocks or nuts and a gallon or so old gas or diesel.. Slosh it around and let it scrape the tank.. I never used the acid and dont coat afterward... Just getting any flakes or major rust out.. A few small particles will be caught in your filter.
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 6:02pm |
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Thanks to all a lot of good information
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Posted: 30 Nov 2020 at 7:20pm |
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We used muriatic acid on our Case loader only because the tank is not removable because it is part of the frame. It worked well especially with the pressure washer afterwords. 3 cleanings made a world of difference, the tank was full of flaking rust.
On my grandsons 3 wheeler I restored for him that use to my kids 3 wheeler, I used vinegar. It’s slower but less harmful. After 4 days, it worked well and has been clean since. Be patient if you use vinegar, but it does cut the rust, just takes some time and shaking each day.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 9:00am |
Cleaned the tank on my Grandpa's WD with the tumble method. Tip; If you use a chain make sure it's not roller chain! Let's say that was interesting to get out. After the tumble it got power washed, was a lot better. I don't remember why but it got the electrolysis treatment before reinstall. This got the rust out. However the power washer didn't get all the scale. Took quite a while and several sediment bowl cleanings and in-line filter changes before it was right. Works great now.
Just got 'Grandpa' running over the long weekend, had a bad condenser.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 9:35am |
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I have used muriatic acid and Bill Hirsch's fuel tank sealer. After you flush the acid with water make sure the tank is completely dry; some alcohol will speed the drying. I have used this sealer on several tanks with good results. The first one was over 10 years ago. Good luck.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 11:04am |
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I normally use a length of 1/4 inch link chain tied to a wire. I slosh it back and forth. Easier to get back out than loose items like nuts or rocks.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2020 at 11:13am |
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As thick as the Cat pony tanks are, I cut one apart at the seem with a cut off wheel and angle grinder. Used a a wire wheel on a die grinder to clean it out. Had it all to bare metal, used mig to weld it back together.
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Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 3:43pm |
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I used nuts and screws inside, and tumbled the tank strapped to a jacked up mower. After the tumbling, I washed it out with water until it ran clear. Then I put Evaporust in it, and rotated the tank every 24 hours until every surface had soaked. It looked like brand new metal inside after the Evaporust treatment.
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Posted: 06 May 2021 at 2:51pm |
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Be aware that those plastic tanks can be known to crack, then your worse than before. I'd clean it as many mentioned above and if you end up with pinholes I'd float some solder over the bottom. Those glue type coatings MUST BE ABSOLUTELY cured before using or the gas will melt it then that is a real PIA mess.
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