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    Posted: 11 Mar 2013 at 7:01am
Whats the best way to clean out a fuel tank?

Edited by AJ - 11 Mar 2013 at 8:16am
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I used "the works" toilet bowl cleaner on last one that I cleaned . It worked very well but it will eat through the tank if it is rusted thin. I used JB weld to repair pin holes and RedKote inside. If you google cleaning tank with the works there is info about the process.
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I use hydrochloric acid purchased from a pool store.  It has a higher concentrate and is less expensive than acid purchased through a hardware.  Using it, you can clean a tank in a day for under $10. You will also need  something to neutralize it (baking soda), and something to remove the moisture (rubbing alcohol).  

I don't coat the tank because if it starts to flake, you will have a mess to deal with. Keep it full of gas and use it.

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AJ I just did one saturday. I pressure washed it for about 30 minutes before I started and it looked way better after that. I then put in 1/2 gal of muratic acid from the hardware store. DON'T BREATHE the fumes. I only let it sit for 15 - 20 minutes then rinsed. I then put in a mixture of 1/2 box of baking soda with 1/2 gallon of water and let it set a few minutes slooshing it all around. I then put the other half box of baking soda with 1 gallon of water and did the same. I then pressure washed again until I was sure it was free of all the acid. Becareful sloshing the tank with the muratic acid in it. The tank was a good solid tank to start with. Shining a light in it after it look shiney and new. Dry it out with alcohol or acetone. I'm told this can ruin a thin tank or eat away at a good solid tank so be careful. I did an old WC tank last summer that had set with gas for over 37 years. I tried every trick I could find first with no luck. 30 minutes with the muratic acid and hot water and it looked like new. I did plan to line the old wc tank.
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Thanks guys. I was in you neck of the woods Saturday Thad. Picked up a load of tractors.
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I  flush it with a power washer to work all of the junk out.
Then  add Muratic Acid. It has always worked good for me. just be careful with it and do not let it sit in the tank to long. 
I also flush em with baking soda/water and then rinse allot.

I do not coat the tank either. Flaking is a nightmare.
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and ...while you're at it...
 
be sure to clean the fuel line as well !!!
 
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This is how I clean the inside of gas tanks.
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Lmao don that's brilliant!!

At first I thought that may be your reserve fuel supply...haha

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Don does have the right idea,if you're not pressed for time. Actually,that way is as good as any I've found and doesn't really take all that long to get clean. Nice pic,Don!  Rick
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Yeah...that's his extra tank alright! Have him explain to you how his recoiling gas line works out with that setup! ROFLMAO!  Rick
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I used Evapo rust  it worked great for me. http://www.evaporust.com/
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Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

Yeah...that's his extra tank alright! Have him explain to you how his recoiling gas line works out with that setup! ROFLMAO!  Rick
Well I was not going to let the fuel line INFO out but after so much demand here's 411 on the gas line install.
First drill a 1/4" hole through the axle, then tap it to 1/8" pipe,  then put a funnel under the inside of axle (must use lots of duct tape to hold funnel on) install a low pressure pump to funnel (more duct tape required here too)then run the 1/8" line up to top fuel tank outlet line (some more duct tape here too) the hard part of running two tanks is not to over flow the top tank when you are plowing and turn on the lower tank pump and forget to turn it off as the top tank gets full.
Tune in next time I will give the 411 about the gas gauge I have come up with. lmaoConfused
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If you only have ONE tractor, Don's idea won't work well. You can however mount your tank to an old cement mixer and do the same thing. The scenery will not change for you as you clean the tank, but it will get clean as long as you add a couple handfuls of 3/8 and 1/2 inch hex nuts before you go for a spin.
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Good comeback,Don! LOL! I bet that could work...maybe? I guess I didn't know about you working on the fuel gauge as well. I guess that every half turn of the rear tire would make the gauge read full and the next half turn it would read half full...right? I guess you're going to have a little monkey running around the center of the axle letting you know what it's reading then? You'll have to 'splain this one to me also...when you get time,of course! LMAO!  Rick
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I've done a variation of Don's method with pour in the tank type carb/injector cleaner. Fill it about 1/4 full with a couple handfulls of roofing nails thrown in, toss it in the back of the pickup and drive around a day or two...
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My idea to clean a tank has to be a good one becouse I'm on page 17of  "The Allis Connection" I have made the big time now!
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Don you are up a little late.  still working on the fuel guage?
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Originally posted by Steve Zidlicky Steve Zidlicky wrote:

Don you are up a little late.  still working on the fuel guage?
No fuel gauge work now, I'm watching duck dynasty. lol
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Ha! I am sitting in a hotel in Davenport Iowa watching Duck Dynasty also!! lol

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well don't try SI's beans.  might need another gas guage. lol
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Don...makes me a mount...i kin strap a "stockholder" to...will ya?
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Originally posted by Don(MO) Don(MO) wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Rick wrote:

Yeah...that's his extra tank alright! Have him explain to you how his recoiling gas line works out with that setup! ROFLMAO!  Rick
Well I was not going to let the fuel line INFO out but after so much demand here's 411 on the gas line install.
First drill a 1/4" hole through the axle, then tap it to 1/8" pipe,  then put a funnel under the inside of axle (must use lots of duct tape to hold funnel on) install a low pressure pump to funnel (more duct tape required here too)then run the 1/8" line up to top fuel tank outlet line (some more duct tape here too) the hard part of running two tanks is not to over flow the top tank when you are plowing and turn on the lower tank pump and forget to turn it off as the top tank gets full.
Tune in next time I will give the 411 about the gas gauge I have come up with. lmaoConfused

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Check with your local Radiator guy. Some Radiator shops clean fuel tanks, and they do a pretty good job. Save's you playing with acid. Speaking of acid, reminds of the Little Johnny joke about playing with acid. Little Johnny had a jar of acid one day while he sitting on a corner. A priest walked up and asked Johnny what he had in the jar. Johnny said its acid Father. The priest said to Johnny, little boys shouldn't play with acid, you should play with holy water. Lil' Johnny said to the priest,  what's so good about your holy water?? The priest looked down at Johnny and said I put holy water on a Mothers belly and she passed a baby! Little Johnny looked at the Priest and said, heck, that ain't nottin' Father, I put some of this here acid on a Cats butt and he passed a Motorcycle! Don, that's the darndest looking wheel wieght I ever seen!
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Don i'll just let you have my tank so you can clean it the Don-ified Process of cleaning a tank.
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Don, Somehow, I missed something in your instructions. How does the gas get into and out of the thermos bottle?

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Pssst...Bob! It's a DIFFERENT kind a gas that he uses in that thar thermos o' his! Don't get him started on that one! LMAO!  Rick
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You pour it in and you pour it out.  You calling his COFFEE gasoline? LOL
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