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i was just looking at the pictures on that site and a few of them are pulls i go to...! maybe il see you around! what do you pull.. Michael?

If I could of found one I would of had a WC. They are rare birds around here. My great uncle had one, unstyled, I think a '37. I finally got it after he passed away. I bought it from my great aunt for scrap price, without really looking at it. To make this post short and to the point, Engine ,trans, was full of water and had a busted trans. housing. All the bearings were siezed in the rear which was also full of water. I just didn't think it was worth the trouble, salvage yard had very limited suppy of parts, looked like a money pit, I lost $50 on it, end of story. I wish I had it to do over.....

They are almost impossible to beat in the 3500# class, but it has been done! Stripped down I bet one weighs less than 3000#, that allows for moveable weight to balance the tractor. I run a WD, stripped, it weighs 3300# my son drives it in the 3500, most pulls allow 100# tolorance on scales so we can weigh 3600# We can run 65 to 100 # depending on how the scales weigh where you are at.

C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM!

Great input guys. this is why i read the fourm! I kinda forgot you could strip all that crap out of the wd trans. That would help alot. All i know is radiator work is esxpensive for them! i can just go to the internet and buy a new radiator assembly.

With the hydraulic pump and PTO gears and hand clutch removed, a WD or WD45 efficiency is the same as a WC. In fact an old WD transmission is the same as a WC, only located farther back in the chassis. The outboard (dropped) final drives have no advantage over any other bull gear design for power transfer.

And back to the topic of the conversation....You can have a great power to weight ratio with a unstyled WC. Not much can touch one in a 3500 lb class.

And another note....Has anyone ever thought of the amount of driveline power loss in a WC compaired to the WD WD45? Just a thought.....WC has Bell housing then a pretty simple trans. Then a tourqe tub then right into the rear axle housing. On a WD you also have the cam system that runs the hydro pump . Just seems like more rotating mass for you to lose HP in the drive line? Im sure its not much but maybe i am over thinking it.

The tractor I have is a 38..serial number checks out and the tractor was un change. Had cultivators on it for its whole life.Stayed on the same farm since new. Was an all pressed steel wheel tractor I guess u could say from factory....kinda rare for 38?

Some unstyled WC had a 6 bolt front end. That's what I have. Not sure why though...

I would vote for Unstyled WC. I took both motors and built them up. Both are running 65 to 75 hp. I like the diffrent look of them. Not alot of people have them around my area. I have two. one is going on four years same motor, and the other one i am in the middle of working on the motor. Want to have one to keep playing with....and alot going to have it all painted up for this summers pulling season.......Hope things change on here soon becuase i am to the point of not asking any opinions because you dont know whats fact or BS.

I have a few i talk to and thats it anymore.

Find out NOW before you get your you know what caught in the wringer! ( I vote WC)

sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"

i tried to give Michael my opinion but this thread blew up like i said i pull a wc that's all i use it for if i need a tractor to pull and work i would use a 17 or a WD45 that's my opinion

I'm sorry that I had to wade through all this baloney to give you my oppinion on your original question. When faced with the same question, I decided to build a "styled" 1938 WC. Some places offer antique classes for tractors older than 1939. A-C built both "styled" & "ustyled" WCs in 1938. I like the later version with an electric starter. If the every day use has a high priority to you then build a WD, WD45 or early D17 made before 1959...but in my humble oppinion a WC of any type offers the most bang for the buck when it comes to antique/classic A-C pulling tractors. Good luck! Kip

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I am sticking a Gleaner motor in my wd45. Its still a workhorse around the farm. I plan on hitting a few pulls with it. Don't expect to win. Just have a good time with some good people.

The pissing and moaning on this forum amazes me. If you have to try that hard to prove you know what you think you know but have no physical proof, you probably are blowing smoke.....we're all tired of it. Us pullers don't want to lose this forum because of a select few. Knock it off....play nice or find somewhere else for your pissing contest.

Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110

Nope allis valves are bbc length at least the ones i have pulled from old heads. Have you pricex allis valve springs

Edited by mlpankey - 11 Mar 2013 at 5:46am

No they were sbc valve 300 shorter than factory allis wich means they are a 100 longer than stock sbc. Man i didnt realise you needed me to draw you picture. Righty tighty lefty loosey.

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