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Alex09(WI) 
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 Topic: My 190xt III gets an endurance test
Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 9:50pm |
Local gas station owner's food stand is run with a pto generator. The 40hp IH tractor that he has been powering it with blew it's radiator today. Guy called me for a tractor to rent per hour. Offered my 190xt in work clothes. Will be running nonstop until next Thurs 8/6 when a underground electrical line is installed. Any idea on a fair price per hour?
I did an oil and filter change before I drove it over. Thinking I can stretch the oil change to 150hrs. I've no idea on the fuel consumption either. The tractor is not nearly maxed out, i'm guessing the generator is drawing 50hp maybe. RPMs are at pto speed line ~2200rpms. Checked the antifreeze with a test strip and it showed good. Hopefully it performs well.
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Rusty Allis
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Posted: 29 Jul 2020 at 10:25pm |
take this, adjust for inflation (2009 prices) and add 15% https://www.proengine.com/sites/default/files/documents/RENTAL%20PRICES%2010-2009.pdfwe ran a JD 2240 for 10 days "straight" with a Winco 50kw unit. we stopped for about 10 mins/day to check oil/fluids and a 100mph lookover. I can't recall fuel consumption other than it took about 5 gallons willingly every morning and another almost 5 gals every night
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DrAllis
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 7:20am |
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I'd say 1.5 GPH at 2,200 RPM no load as per Nebraska test. At a 43 HP load at full throttle the fuel burn rate was 3.6 GPH. Your results may vary.
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Leon B MO
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Posted: 30 Jul 2020 at 4:02pm |
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We run a 14" water pump with a 200. It will go 18 hours, but it'll be empty. When were pumping water we would fill it early in the morning and every evening. Sometimes it would run many days Non-Stop.
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Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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john(MI)
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 10:05am |
For that total number of days, 9, it will use 1 1/4 oil changes. It appears it may be able to be fueled free if they have a diesel pump out there. So that leaves wear and tear on the engine. 216 hours, sitting still. I guess that's open to what the two parties can decide on. You should've probably set an hourly rate before you started churning and burning.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 10:42am |
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I'm curious as to what number you settle on. If you get "free fuel", that helps some, but is really only a small fraction of a typical hourly rate. Fuel is going to run less than $15 per hour? Are you trying to be a nice guy or a businessman?
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Alex09(WI)
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 1:21pm |
When we hooked it up, I quoted $17/hr. No objections. They are filling with fuel. I hoped for some input before I said my number.
Not sure what the JD dealer charges to rent a 2wd 100hp per hour, maybe $20/hr and you fill with fuel.
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skateboarder68
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 8:31pm |
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15 bucks an hour equals $360 in 24 hours. I would be happy with that. I’d be absolutely tickled if they provided fuel on top of that
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Posted: 31 Jul 2020 at 10:24pm |
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Went to check the fluids today after lunch at about 46hrs in, engine oil was not black yet. Holding 42lbs oil pressure. Had to add some hyd oil, seems to be dripping 6 drops per minute from inspection hole under clutch.
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