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Lonn 
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 Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 2:25pm |
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I thought Allis came out with a stronger piston for those engines. I remember a 190XT in the shop that had a broken piston but I don't remember if we overhauled it completely or just replaced that piston. It's been almost 30 years ago.
My Dad's 190XT would always start in the cold Minnesota winters and it always liked gasoline no matter what the job.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 1:23pm |
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Traded for my 180 gas back in the early 1980's have used it for a lot of things over the years,have a loader on it now motor has never been gone into since I have had it still runs very well.For a tractor its size it doesn't use anymore gas than any other gas tractor its size.Had a 190XT gas for awhile now that thing could soak up some gas a whole lot more than my 180 think it had a 301 in it.
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injpumpEd
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Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 12:32pm |
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I often wonder how well these would run with the EFI conversion that Dave Kepner is doing to 3020/4020's. He isn't doing any other makes of tractors that I'm aware of, but that would be a nice upgrade. I'm a diesel guy though lol!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 12:28pm |
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301 gas engine in a 190XT was famous for breaking piston tops off of the skirt. A-C never resolved the problem. I think when you need to overhaul a 265 or 301 gas engine, there are no repair parts (pistons/sleeves) available anymore. They ran like everyone else's big gassers at that time: cold-blooded and use lots of fuel.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 11:25am |
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How do the newer larger AC 6 cylinder gas engines run? Do they have any issues? The good 226 4 cylinder engine was the only AC gas I’ve ever operated in the D17 /One-Seventy tractors.
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 9:14pm |
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The gas 180's usually bring less money than a diesel one.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 8:41pm |
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I have a 180 gas and know of another.
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Rick
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Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 7:33pm |
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I have two 180 gas tractors...had three, but sold one. I have one with 2800 original hours on it...1969 model...
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jiminnd
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Posted: 04 Apr 2020 at 7:28pm |
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The neighbors without 3pt is gas, know of a couple others, 1 diesel and 1 gas but both with 3pt.
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 03 Apr 2020 at 8:23pm |
According to tractor data, there were roughly 10,500 180's made. Only 1,100'ish were gassers, does that make ours a "collectors'" model   ??
Edited by FREEDGUY - 03 Apr 2020 at 8:23pm
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