410 pistol

Oldest son has a Judge

Youngest son bought a old K10 Blazer that he thoroughly destroyed

in his youngest son ways.

Oldest son wanted to try the Judge out with 00Buck and 45's.

Youngest son said use the Blazer I ain't gonna fix it. Wasn't much anyway.

From 20' ain't nobody getting away if hit with 00.

45 went clear through it.

Although I suggested otherwise above, and although it doesn't exactly qualify as a compact concealed, I would personally prefer the full frame 1911, for lots of reasons, including but not limited to, the selective nature of it's operation... one can choose, by virtue of placement, wether to warn, injure, disable, or dispatch a target.  From 25 feet, A round to the shoulder will spin and drop a 250lb man to the ground, and grant enough time for you to either move forward to secure the target, or retreat to safety.  When the 7 round clip is empty, you can rapidly eject, insert a new, and cycle to battery a ready round for more action. 

Most importantly, once it's empty, the 1911 pistol is STILL a VERY deadly weapon, and can be used to do all sorts of really bad things to an adversary, while having no ill effect to the sidearm- a fresh magazine will put it right back to conventional operation with no worries about damage to the barrel, firing mechanism, or loading.

A casual assailant wouldn't likely be inclined to escalate a situation much farther than a hammer-back once the wrong end of that barrel was facing them, but having the option to apply 'unrestricted combat' mode would not only eliminate a large quantity of the greatest threats soonest, it would immediately convince the lesser-skilled/lesser-esperienced bad guys that it was time to exit in lieu of a new avocation.

Of course, if I ever came upon an option to acquire an M15 variant, I certainly would, but I'd feel obligated to contact the original officer's decendants, as they may want opportunity to acquire it as a family heirloom... that kind of thing superceded my worthyness a bit.

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Just saw the tag line, Lonn...

AllI gots to say is

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I've used several, including the Judge.  Problem with .410, is that it's not all that powerful to begin with, and because of the presence of wad, when coupled with the powder's expansion rate, pushing on the back of the wad, requires about 4 more inches of barrel to get any efficiency... you have about two-thirds of the powder left to burn when the muzzle finally opens.  You're gonna make noise and fire, and if an attacker is not wearing sunglasses, you may poke his eye out.  You'll make him hurt, but then he'll be very angry, and his friends won't be happy.  A .45LC is a better choice, but defensive combat dynamics makes a .380 auto with a multi-shot magazine beats it many times over.

To make a shotgun derringer effective, you pull it out, get in close, fast, reach out, and pull the trigger.  When defending yourself, you must do the opposite- draw to a defensive stance and back off.

If I didn't have a .380, I'd chose a Taurus PT-25 (25ACP) over a shotgun derringer.  With a .25acp, you'd have to perforate someone , rather than knock them down, but you'd have the ability to PLACE a 50-grain round, and you'd have plenty of 'em to pass out if faced with mutiple assailants in a group.  One shot to a kneecap puts a mugger on the ground... one  shot through the hand, and they're leaving.  If that doesn't  quench their determination, choose something vital.

I have hefted one of those Judges.  Quite a piece of pig iron.

I am with Lou on the concealed carry.  I have the S&W 380 as opposed to his choice of the LCP.  Yep it fits right in the pocket.

BTW Lou, did you know that Ruger has an updated LCP out?  Trigger assembly seems to be a cross breed between the hammer fire and striker fire.  I have dry fired one and the difference in the trigger pull is amazing to me.