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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


6' 6" 380 lb Daddy.  Probably "solid muscle", right?  Riiiiiiiiggghhhhht.


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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:


6' 6" 380 lb Daddy.  Probably "solid muscle", right?  Riiiiiiiiggghhhhht.

Who needs muscle to fight when you can just sit on them and smother them out
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6' 6" 380 lb Daddy.  Probably "solid muscle", right?  Riiiiiiiiggghhhhht.
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Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

Dave, next time you have one to practically give away, let me know.  I'll have the $2000 in hand when you bring it! 

 I'm closer Dave,so you'd save on transport costs, and you don't need to show me how to use it Wink
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Dave you still owe me for that Cinci Traytop 13 that I sold you years ago. How could you forget the great deal I gave you? Wink Thumbs Up
 
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Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

What with all the grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. from the 'nephew' it makes a guy REALLY wonder.  How old IS this nephew?


I’m wondering if there actually is a nephew? Lots of similarities between the two fellas.

And the fact he kept referring to bringing his “...6’6” 380 lb daddy” into the equation makes me wonder what kind of guy he is. Calling on his dad when he’s the one running his mouth seems kind of chicken-like to me.

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Originally posted by dt1050 dt1050 wrote:

seams simple to me, have 6'6 380 pound daddy...

Guys, guys guys...let's give the benefit of the doubt.  That may not have been a threat, but rather an obtuse way of saying that they're all dealing with type II diabetes.

....but seriously, folks, there are about a thousand ways to avoid someone resorting to calling you out on a forum.  Most involve some form of doing what you said you would do, paying what you owe and answering attempts at communication.  It's not rocket science and a person does not need impressive writing skills to do any of them.
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Dave, next time you have one to practically give away, let me know.  I'll have the $2000 in hand when you bring it!  And oh by the way, you'll have to make some extra time to teach me how to use it.  Think that'll work?

What with all the grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc. from the 'nephew' it makes a guy REALLY wonder.  How old IS this nephew?

Dawntreader, I truly hope that your check is in the mail as I type this.


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Dave, as soon as I saw the "prepared" area, and could clearly see this guy was a deadbeat lazy sob, and just didn't have the time to get the money even, I would have said how much you have? Take what he had and left, keeping it for the trouble! lol! I don't take a screwing very well lmao!
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The reply I see, looks like trash and threats to me... decent people don't do that.

There was a gentleman on another forum (machine tools) who claimed to be 'retired', looking for a good lathe, wanted to know all about a particular brand and model... that was imported from China.  He talked like he was budgeting $12,500 for it, which considering the quality, was WAY too much.  Just so happened I had an extra Cinci Traytop 13 that fit his needs perfectly, had three chucks, live and dead centers, steady and follow, and a Phase II toolpost, a taper attachment, and a VFD that I'd recently installed.  and I was willing to sell it to him for $2000, but he was in southern Ohio, and I was in Iowa.  I'm naturally a 'too nice' of a guy at times... I had a machine that was doing nobody any good, and it needed a loving home, where it could make itself worth, and make a guy happy in his shop.

Just so happens that as part of my employment, one of the 'perks' is that i could tow a trailer behind my company service truck, and I had no problem arranging an assignment that put me on the path, so I agreed to bring it to him.  He was concerned that he couldn't unload it or get it placed in his 'workshop'.  Since I had a pallet jack, and had the Cinci on a nice, stable fabricated base, it was no problem for me to unload it off the trailer, into his garage, so he promised to 'have access and placement ready'.

I showed up at his house, and his 'preparation' of the 'shop', was to slide some garbage cans away from his garage door, and prop the (broken) door open with a 2x4.  The garage floor had junk everywhere, and NONE of it had been worked on for years.  The 'area' prepared, needed to have trash raked out of the way.  The 'power' outlet was non existant- he 'wasn't able' to get an electrician out to put in a 240v/35A outlet in place.  Turns out, he wasn't 'retired'.  He was lazy... and had been living on the dole for best parts of a man's employable life.

Of course, he was concerned that since I couldn't 'prove' that it operated right then, and he 'couldn't get to the bank' for the 'rest', he handed me $700, and promised me the rest once he got it  hooked up and tested... and figured that once he did, he'd be doing enough odd-jobs in his shop to make the rest 10x over in a few months.

Think I ever saw the rest?  Not a dime.  Called him probably a dozen times, and I got a dozen excuses.  I was nice about it... I was more interested in hearing that he'd gotten it fired up, and was cutting metal.  Instead, he was more interested in telling me about how bad his health was... in between chain-smoking, and rattling his wife's oxygen bottle.

Am I upset about the $1300?  Nope.  I lost $26k when a former employer's 401K agent went down for embezzellment and although I got the judgement, I never saw a penny come back.  I had a kid in high school steal and destroy ONE of my shoes... just one... (sigh).

I was pissed, because he deprived some other guy... some decent human being... some guy that needed a really good lathe in his shop, and probably didn't have even $700 in hand... but could'a easily made all and then some with just a little ambition, giving the machine what it needed-  a loving home.  Mebbie that guy would've been an Allis guy... or a Cub Cadet guy... or a Goldwing Guy... or a HAM Radio guy... or any of the other guys on forums I volley notes with... or a 17 year old kid that longs for the ability to build 'real' parts for his inventions.  This guy shafted THEM... out of something that was greater than money.

Do I let it eat me?  No.  There's a nice little place in hell for people who do that, I let it go.  Doesn't make it right, but I did what God and Mother Nature put me on this earth to do, and regardless of his circumstances, he did what he did.  We'll all get our rewards in the long run.

I'm certain there's people I owed, that amidst all that's befallen me at times, I've overlooked and forgotten, and I apologize to anyone I've done that to, if and when I figure them out, I'll make right somehow, and ask forgiveness for those I missed.  Hopefully the times I exercised forgiveness and pay-forward will offset that which I screwed up.

Chin up, eyes forward.  Wink


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seams simple to me, have 6'6 380 pound daddy send a check and pay the debt!! a lot of sales on this forum is on the honor system and if a member can't be trusted we need to know. If you can log in to the forum there is no excuse for not explaining the situation.
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Oh you said a mouthful.  LOL Clap Thumbs Up Wink
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Originally posted by bigal121892 bigal121892 wrote:

Based on the spelling, and grammar, I’m guessing this isn’t the most educated group, which could be part of the problem.
I don't want to say too much, but I had a hard time following his post and had to reread it a few times. One thing I noticed right away, if you compare the "nephew's" post to all of Bob's other posts, the bad spelling/grammer/punctuation and the seemingly random apostrophes peppered throughout the message is all quite similar.  


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Finally some one from the clan answered.
 'I am on hear today' and 'start with'... , 'this is BS'...
  Yes, it is BS.   Bob Love received the items, 50 days ago,  whoever opened the three emails and answered the phone once should have had the courtesy 40 days ago to at least say, "Hi, I am Bob's sister, brother, mother, father, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew or other... and I am sorry to inform you that Bob is sick... Bob's in the hospital,... Bob is on vacation... Bob isn't paying,... or Bob has died. " ...  At least Josh would have an idea of what was happening to Bob (Dawntreader74) and the so called 'BS' would have probably been avoided.  But instead the BS started on your end towards Josh. and it is simple as that.
 And what was Josh suppose to do when the private emails were opened and not answered, and phone calls stopped being answered, and one phone call was answered but hung up without saying anything...
What was Josh suppose to do, drive all the way to Bob Love's place to collect payment?
NO, the proper thing would have been to reply to Josh and tell him what was going on.

 I made a deal through this forum with a fellow one time, he said he would be coming up to a show "come hell or high water" deal was done, I would meet him there at a certain place on the grounds in x number of weeks and marked it on my calendar... . I was there and he was not.   I picked up the phone and called him and he said he totally forgot... he had been in the hospital for almost 2 weeks from getting burned from gas getting sprayed on his pants and then ignited and he had just gotten out a few days ago. Told him I was sorry to hear of his mishap and hoped he would heal fast.  If I would have just called him the night before going down to the show, I would have known he wasn't going to be there, and not wasted the day on the road.

 Clear communications makes life better.  and it would have been far better if who-ever was seeing the emails and heard the phone ring would have simply answered them back at that time.   Take this as a lesson in life.
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I was becoming somewhat sympathetic but with the last post may not! If Dawntreader has the time to be on the forum then he should explain the situation just as Wayne did. If the family took offense to the first post that stared this thread then they should explain the situation not threaten people. Talk about bullies. My goodness. But I now think the situation has been very well explained!!!!!!Sorry about the illness but that doesn't give anyone the right to do what has allegedly been done. Amen
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I had a previous post regarding this combine.  The whole truth is not being told.  My brother sold him the combine in good faith and even loaded the corn head onto his trailer for him to pick up when he paid for it.  After a year sitting and no payment forthcoming my brother called him and told him to pay him because he was tired of working around it.  Then a stupid comment was made about my sister in law and that is when he told him to come and get his trailer because he was done with him.  Stretching the story for sympathy and not coming clean on their end is not honorable business.  If I buy something and cannot come and get it right away or in a reasonable time due to whatever reason I at the least will pay for it instead of leaving them hanging for a year. I have bought and sold many items on here and have never had a problem.  I have met several forum members and made good friends with them.  They can tell I am fair and honest.  Like they say in the court room the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 
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Based on the spelling, and grammar, I’m guessing this isn’t the most educated group, which could be part of the problem.
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Kinda what I thought, he's complaining about being bullied, but in reality he is doing the bullying. I don't give 2 $h!ts how big or small someone is, they want to kick my ass they'd better wear bullet proof vest if they are in the wrong to start with. If I've got it coming, kick away!
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2x ebowman's comment. Further, I hope I'm misreading it, but the nephew's post sounds like a physical threat - how does THAT fit with the values on this forum?
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I don't even understand the post... is that English? Where I come from, the adjoining state, when a family member is down we help. A good family member would jump in and make it right. You defend your family in an honorable way. I believe the bully would be the nephew, just make contact and send the payment. Thanks for the warning and trying to protect your "family"!! We have to trust each other. I make payment and hope the guy sends the parts. Sometimes I get uneasy, but that's business! I wouldn't send a part without payment unless I'm willing to drive there to make it square
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I will pray for Bob's health and well being. No one on here wants to beat up somebody when they are down . If I was sick I would still make sure my debts are paid . If my uncle was too sick to pay I would take care of it for him . The original poster has every right to state his case if he has no information as to your uncles condition .
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sadly, he's sick, but has still been on here. Unable to answer phone? Being in business myself, and also being too trusting, I cannot stand deadbeat payers! I truly hope this is simply a case of being unable to get check out because of illness, not just trying to weasel out of payment. I've been stiffed a couple of times, but never anyone on any tractor forum I'm on, all been local! The original poster is very much in the right for putting this out there, it's now up to Mr Love (any one of them can do it) to make it right. Someone coming on here posting on his behalf cutting the op down for it is certainly no help, but actually shows the op may be right. If I had an illness and didn't get someone paid, and I saw this I'd be apologetic not defensive and even offensive. 
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People get sick, that's just part of life. Another vote for "In God we trust, all else pay cash". That way if the buyer ends up incapacitated in some way and never sends a check, the seller ends up thinking he changed his mind rather than feeling ripped off.
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Originally posted by dawntreader74 dawntreader74 wrote:

i am on hear today bob is my uncle. i am hear with my dad' he help me get on this so called post. start with this man should of never put this bs on hear the start with. he has went to er been sick in a bad way for over 26 days. this man had the sand to start this im sure he will have the sand to say he jump the gun after said an done. for the rest an this wayne guy' i me an my dad have the tool we bought from his brother we payed him cash for it an the guy wanted the combine gone before we could move it an got mad an said he was keeping it. no hard feelings. we never seen wayne guy don't even know the man. i been on hear looking myself at things im on this post with my dad. we hear this is a big guy that wants to bully some little person. dad is 6'6 an around 380 if he wants this tool he keeps bring up he can buy it back an come get it or forget it an just let it go he won't bully us. sounds like you all are trying to kick a person when there down. sorry it had to come to this but we seen to much bs on hear some people need to keep there comments to there self if they don't know whats going on' it was wrong to even started this.


Well seeing how you'd like to set things straight and an admiralable thing for a good nephew
to do why not give your Uncle a hand writing a check and mailing it out?
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i am on hear today bob is my uncle. i am hear with my dad' he help me get on this so called post. start with this man should of never put this bs on hear the start with. he has went to er been sick in a bad way for over 26 days. this man had the sand to start this im sure he will have the sand to say he jump the gun after said an done. for the rest an this wayne guy' i me an my dad have the tool we bought from his brother we payed him cash for it an the guy wanted the combine gone before we could move it an got mad an said he was keeping it. no hard feelings. we never seen wayne guy don't even know the man. i been on hear looking myself at things im on this post with my dad. we hear this is a big guy that wants to bully some little person. dad is 6'6 an around 380 if he wants this tool he keeps bring up he can buy it back an come get it or forget it an just let it go he won't bully us. sounds like you all are trying to kick a person when there down. sorry it had to come to this but we seen to much bs on hear some people need to keep there comments to there self if they don't know whats going on' it was wrong to even started this.
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Bob Love, known as dawntreader74 of Bourbonnais, IL .,
 You have been on here 8 hours 9 minutes ago at 12:10am , and been a member here since 28 Oct 2013 at 10:56pm...
 Clean up your act and PAY the man... make it right.   You would expect others to pay you if you sent stuff to them ... 



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As with any business transaction: the customer pays for the part(s)/shipping first, then they get they're parts. Keeps everyone honest. There are a choosen few as Rick said that I don't worry about here. He's one of them! Its a shame a few like this guy Dawntreader that ruin it for other family members here. I look at us as a big family here where we all take care of one another when help is needed. And it doesn't mean having to buy somethin' either. Hopefully, he'll scrape up the dough to send to Josh and get square....
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The only ones I ever send anything to, before I get the payment, are the ones I've dealt with for many years. All others send payment first, then I ship the parts. If you've done business with me for a good while I'll trust you at least one time. If I get screwed, you're done as far as I'm concerned. The one that really got me was a guy over on one of the Facebook forums that burnt a set of fingers off a clutch by adjusting them up against the throw out bearing. (Don't know what he was thinking!) I sent him another set of fingers and he was going to send me 30.00 for them (10.00 each), but needed them right away, so I sent them. I have never seen that 30.00 yet! The guy is an Admin. of that site. I just figured let the loser be, must need it more than I do...Rick
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Originally posted by Fred in Pa Fred in Pa wrote:

Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Interesting. I dealt with him a few years ago, but I was buying parts, not selling. Everything went well.

 
 Did he make u pay for parts before he shipped them .

Yes. Of course, I wouldn’t have thought of doing it any other way.
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