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ozarkfarmer01
Bronze Level Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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I’ll check into that for tires! Thanks!! It would be really nice to find a good used set of radial either 18.4-or 20.8x38 tires for a good price.
I don’t know what it takes to ship a great big thing like a set of tires, but I see they’re in the MS, Alabama region, and I’m in Iowa. I’ll see what they usually do in a case like that. On another note, I’m ready to remove the injection pump this afternoon, and get it and probably the injectors cleaned and the pump rebuilt. |
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4768 |
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take the top cover off pump first to look inside and see how it looks. If clean, you can always try running a hose from a clean fuel can right to the inlet of the injection pump, center rear. If it's working right, it should suck fuel out and start squirting out the loosened lines in short time.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Please get this thing RUNNING before you even THINK about rubber !! |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Just from looking in the timing plate, it was brown and gummy looking. I got the timing mark found, got the pump off and took everything into town for rebuild and cleaning, including all the lines except the large one from the tank, and also took the injectors in. It really ought to run after this, as that had to be the problem. It should be all done by Wednesday. While I have the alternator off, it’s going to another town to be checked out, and (hopefully not) rebuilt. The next job to do on it is to get the manifold off, and replace it. While it’s that far apart, I’m thinking the turbo ought to get checked out, and it’ll probably need $500-600 of work. I’m fairly confident that it will run well after all this, hopefully by next weekend. |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Here is my problem with the tires. I’m not even sure that I’ll make it home before the duals fly apart, let alone in the field. |
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Lynn Marshall
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Dana, Iowa Points: 2147 |
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If that tractor still has a Niehoff alternator,and if it's bad, I wouldn't waste the time or money on it. Just get a Delco with a tach correcting pulley and be done with it.
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Michael V (NM)
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NM Points: 2335 |
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Yes...there is some gold in them Niehoff alternator somewhere..I just haven't found it,,, still got the one I took off... Look in the Shoup catalog for the Delco replacement,,it comes with the correct pully and wiring...$175'ish iirc |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Well, I have the pump and injectors back from rebuild, and $2,200 less in my pocket!!
They said everything was gummed up good, and the shut off cam and metering arm were broke off and laying in the pump. So, that left plenty of room for improvement, which means it has a good chance at running now!! I’ll try and get it put together tomorrow, and maybe try to start it again. The alternator checked out good, luckily. As soon as it’s running good, I’ll change the oil and bring it the five miles home, then work on the manifold and maybe the turbo as well. I have been trying to pick up all the filters for it, and Napa’s cab air filter was $93!! The outer engine air filter was $40, and I haven’t got the prices on the rest yet. |
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 7981 |
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Seems all filters are pricey today. We need em so just pay up and move on....
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injpumpEd
Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 4768 |
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WOW! $2200? Ouch! They only get that high in my shop when major components are needed, like a head & rotor, cam ring, or housing. Hope it runs good now!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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JayIN
Orange Level Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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good luck! Keep us posted!
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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They did have to replace the cam ring, and they had three pages of other stuff, coming to $1,200 parts, and around $900 labor.
I got the pump and lines mounted, now for the injectors, then I’m going to replace the fan, alternator, and A/C belts. As long as I don’t freeze into place, that is!! Hopefully it runs good now, it better!!! |
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Lonn
Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29773 |
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If you can get your hands on non-bio diesel all the more better
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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We got the injectors in, now all that’s left is getting the lines hooked up, putting the hand primer on, putting the alternator back on, then it should be ready to crank.
We usually don’t run the bio diesel, but I think it only has problems when it sits around. This tractor won’t sit around anymore now!! It pays to keep them moving. Hopefully tomorrow it’ll be warmer, and we can start it then. We would have almost got it today, but it was cold at 20 degrees this morning, and by late afternoon the windchill was -5! Edited by Orange Glow - 28 Dec 2018 at 8:59pm |
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3198 |
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Check it’s engine air filter & external inlet pipe for bird nests. They love to build nest inside the pipe right above the filter canister.
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Today it runs!!! It took a few tries of getting the air bubbles worked out, then it started and ran smoothly!! It revs good, and purrs like a kitten.
I did replace the air filters, so that should be good. |
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Sagefarmer
Silver Level Joined: 22 Apr 2013 Location: North Carolina Points: 81 |
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Congratulations. Keep pictures coming
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skateboarder68
Silver Level Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Keota, IA Points: 368 |
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Good job! That had to be a pretty great sound hearing it run!
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Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240.
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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It is at its new home now!!! I drove it about five miles, then around the yard a few times. It runs perfectly, shifts smoothly, and is just a great tractor!! I just can’t hardly hold all the excitement!!! |
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Tim NH
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Lancaster NH Points: 1060 |
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I'm glad it all worked out for you, that's a very nice looking tractor. . Tim
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1852 Moore Farm
Bronze Level Joined: 21 Apr 2016 Location: Missouri Points: 91 |
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Sometimes...you eat the bear. Congrats!
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GM Guy
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jul 2012 Location: NW KS / S.C. ID Points: 1973 |
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Agco is actually cheaper on the cab air filter.
Nice looking 7060! |
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Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine.
If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
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Dan Hauter
Orange Level Joined: 06 Feb 2011 Location: Carlinville, IL Points: 1223 |
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I have two 7060's. 1 red belly & 1 black belly. I'very really enjoyed reading your story & all the posts. Please let us know how it goes when you use your tractor. Congratulations on your progress to date & best of luck as you put your girl to work!
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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I got it cleaned up and waxed, changed the antifreeze and filter, and replaced the shut off cable so far. I also picked up a new cab kit, floor mat, water temp/ fuel gauge, and air conditioner hose from Agco.
I still need to change the hydraulic oil and filters. It was leaking some oil out of the axle seals while it was sitting, but after driving it for awhile, it almost seems like it might have dried up. We do have two new radial 18.4R38’s, and a well used pair of Radials for the duals, to put on it. We also need to set the tires to 30” rows, and it looks like the duals are already there. They are 60” from the drawbar. The inside ones are 36”, and to make it perfect they would need to be 30” from the drawbar. We won’t be able to go all that, because they would rub on the cab. How hard is the removal of the factory duals? I have enjoyed running this tractor so far, and can’t wait to get it in the field this spring! Thanks for all the replies!! |
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SteveM C/IL
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 7981 |
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Don't think you can quite get to 30 unless rubbing cab. My 8070 is close to 4 in over 60 I think. Still side dress corn ok...18.4's
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darrel in ND
Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8583 |
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Congratulations on getting er going, Garrett. Makes me prouder n a peacock to see young folks such as yourself taking an interest in allis stuff. Speaking from experience, 7060's are AWESOME! Darrel
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Steve, that’s good to know about still being able to side-dress. That’s what I was wondering, if they would be close enough to work good. I haven’t had a chance to measure, but I believe our John Deere 4255 is a similar width, except it doesn’t have the power adjust rims. It is as close as can get to the cab, and it works well for spraying and such.
Thanks, Darrel!! I just started farming this year (my first out of school) and this 7060 will run the bean planter. My neighbor has a really nice heated shop, that my cousin has been working in, so he also let me bring in the 7060. I’ve mainly just been cleaning, brushing, and vacuuming so far, but I did get a couple pieces of the cab kit put on today. I removed the shields around the dash, and cleaned out a bunch of mice mess, and put a deal in to remove the odor. It seemed to work, and with the new foam, it ought to smell like it did in 1978!! There was some green foam on top of the cab, under the white part, and I’m trying to get some new stuff for it. The one local store didn’t have any, so I may need to get some online. It’s probably 3/4” thick, by 5” wide and as long as the cab is wide. There was three stacked, which would make for probably 18’ total. The new water temp/ fuel gauge works good as well!! |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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I’ve got the cab kit in, and put most of it all back together, except for the exhaust manifold and top of the cab. I got the back 2/3 of the manifold off, and the new one should be here tomorrow. The cracked piece came apart in halves. I got the gaskets for it, and am going to put new bolts in. After that’s done, I still need to change the hydraulic/transmission oils and filters, get the foam roll for the top, then get the new tires mounted. And at some point I need to work on the air conditioner, and figure out what it’s going to take to get it back to going. What do you guys recommend on those pumps? It never worked for my cousin, so at least since 1996, and I already got the hose to replace one from the compressor to the front by the radiator. I’ve seen various things about getting a conversion kit to a sendan or something like that, what is the benefits? I don’t even know what kind this is, but from reading about them, it’s probably an A-6 style, is that correct for a 1978 7060? It sounds likely the seals are probably shot in it, and who knows what else. And one of the last things, the seat. My cousin has most of another seat for it, and it’s in better condition, but it does have a worn spot or two as well. There’s no kits I’ve found for these, so is the only option to take it to an upholstery place to get fixed? Thanks!! |
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Orange Glow
Bronze Level Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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I got the new manifold on, and took it out for a ride!! It had much better power. That foam in the cab kit made a huge difference in noise, and now it feels like I’m driving it in 1978!!
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