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Eldon (WA) 
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 7:59pm |
Looks like a pretty clean machine. Only thing I would question is how much the trip bucket loader will lift with those small diameter cylinders and low pressure hydraulics....
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 8:34pm |
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Eldon, it has a whole day left ?
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Jeff Z. NY
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 8:41pm |
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Because it ain't worth $5000.00.
I can go down the road around here and buy them all day long for 3000.00 and under.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 8:57pm |
On a series IV for the trip loader doesn't have much value. Undoubtedly a dealer if you have to pay sales tax and the opening bid is probably about where the sales price should be.
Jeff, if you can buy a Series IV in that condition for $3000 and under start buying them up, I"ll be out to pick them up when you get a load.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:07pm |
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$5K still seems a little high to me. I haven't seen any series IV tractors for $3K but I've seen them in that condition (without loader) for $4K. Also add the fact that sometimes buying a tractor on ebay can be a big risk. The only way I'd ever buy a tractor off of ebay is if I could go and inspect it in person or get it at a real bargain. Personally, I wouldn't bid over $3K on the tractor in question because I haven't inspected it.
IMO, trip bucket loaders are kind of neat on old tractors but they are kind of useless. The loader on that tractor wouldn't add any value to me.
Edited by m16ty - 13 Dec 2011 at 9:11pm
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:47pm |
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Straight Ser IV w. fct 3 pt that do not jump out of gear go for 5 grand all day around here.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:51pm |
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Don't forget those special rear pie weights....someone is selling a mismatched set on ebay for $650??
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:53pm |
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Jeff . please by all you can at those prices and send them to me ....
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:54pm |
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Amen Pat!!! Jeff if you can buy a series IV for under $3000 you better buy everyone you can get your hands on. Ryan
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 9:59pm |
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Very nice tractor. If the loader was fully hydraulic, I would pay that.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 10:02pm |
Of course there are some out there to be had for less...I did buy this D17 SIV hi-clearance diesel w/ factory 3pt a few years back for around $2700 after I sold the attachments that came with it....
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 10:04pm |
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Does look pretty good. Has the original steering wheel in good condition and the $300 muffler, too.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 10:09pm |
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Did AC have a special loader for the tractors with the new low pressure hydraulics??
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Posted: 13 Dec 2011 at 10:30pm |
Not really a special loader, but the cylinders are different for the lower psi...
Now that I look at it closer they don't look like the low psi cylinders? They look smaller diameter than the ones I have, could just be the picture and my bad eyes...
Edited by Travis(NE) - 13 Dec 2011 at 10:38pm
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 12:37am |
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I agree with most of the posts. I think people make a mistake by asking too high a starting price. Even if it is worth it, bidders like to think they are setting the price, not the seller. Should have a reserve with a lower starting price. I've learned to not bid until a few hours or less before the end of sale. Sometimes people don't want to go as high or don't pay attention until it's too late.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 4:20am |
Why No Bids???
There are all in MD looking at this one.
Allis Chalmers D17 Series IV, Easton, MD . See ad content. Price: $3500.00 or best offer. Location: Easton, MD, 21601 ...
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 4:25am |
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You guys still here.
You better get on the road.
Won't last long.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 6:27am |
Sign of the times..the economy. Money's tight,very few jobs, all low paying.( I've never met a rich farmer in my neck of the woods(til he sold his land,sigh)).
The tractor may be nice but unless you've got $5,000 cash lying around ...
I've noticed a drop in the 'value' of lawn tractors, snowblowers,implements,cars and trucks. Heck, grabbed a 97 F150 Xl,<50,000 miles for $500 delivered.So it's now a buyer's market for the deals.
If I had a job, made extra cash, I could buy a LOT of tractors here,but couldn't resell as no one has any 'hobby' money.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 6:58am |
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...... TO ME ROUND 4,000.00 WOULD BE A GOOD PRICE... BE WORTH 5,000 IF IT WEASN'T A TRIP BUCKET... AND IAM IN NY AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN ONE FOR 3,000.00 THAT WAS ANY GOOD MOST TIMES THEY ARE HAMMERED... THAT ONE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD... COME TO HINK OF IT MY SERIES ONE D-17 WITH TRIP BUCKET I WOULD PROBABLY WANT THA FOR IT MYSELF ( NOT SAYING I WOULD GET IT)... BUT IF YOU WANT A GOOD TRACTOR WITH THAT KINDA HORSE POWER AND REALIBLE AS CAN BE I COULDN'T REPLACE IT... IF IT WASN'T SO FAR AWAY I CONSIDER... I LOVE THEM D17s GOOD OLD TRACTORS
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 7:13am |
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Amen Pat!!! Jeff if you can buy a series IV for under $3000 you better buy everyone you can get your hands on. Ryan |
They run between $3-4K in my area. A diesel in really good shape with good tires might fetch $5k on a good day.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 7:17am |
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Last fall I was at a auction and a D17Iv sold for 3K+ a few hundred (can't remember exactly how much) had straight tin and ran nice, after sale new owner drove it to parking lot to load and said with a frown that it had a "growl" in rearend. always a risk buying at auction without oportunity for a complete inspection and test drive.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 7:54am |
Jeff Z. NY wrote:
Allis Chalmers D17 Series IV, Easton, MD . See ad content. Price: $3500.00 or best offer. Location: Easton, MD, 21601 ...
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This one's too high, Jeff. Post the ads for the Series IVs in your area that are $3K and under. With them being available all day in your area for less than $3K you must have have plenty of ads to pic from.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 8:49am |
There are all in MD looking at this one. Allis Chalmers D17 Series IV, Easton, MD . See ad content. Price: $3500.00 or best offer. Location: Easton, MD, 21601 ...
..... thought they were all day in your area??? your area being NY not MD
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:22am |
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You sure couldn't tear up the loader with those lift cylinders on it but it would cycle real fast. It wouldn't take a whole lot to change the cylinders and add a hydraulic dump, but the price they're asking, that work should already be done.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:48am |
Why no bids???? Maybe because eBay (evilBay) has made it so hard to search for, and find things, that only the most dedicated bargain hunters still frequent their site. The sad fact is that those people KNOW what things are worth and won't get taken for a sucker. The neophytes have long since given up on using the site, and if they do find an auction, it is by chance, not design. Remember, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then....
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 9:54am |
GlenninPA wrote:
Why no bids????
Maybe because eBay (evilBay) has made it so hard to search for, and find things, that only the most dedicated bargain hunters still frequent their site. The sad fact is that those people KNOW what things are worth and won't get taken for a sucker. The neophytes have long since given up on using the site, and if they do find an auction, it is by chance, not design. Remember, even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.... |
Now I will agree ebay has done alot of stupid stuff in the last few years, but I have never had a problem searching their site.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 10:37am |
Used to be able to get a search with one line of information, that you got to choose. Now you get the picture and 3-4 lines of info on each listing, plus the dang "toolbar" on the right side, and the picture, and it takes 4 or more times as long to go through a page of listings. Now imagine that you are spending a Sunday evening scrolling through "allis" listings (multiple hundreds+ pages) looking for neat stuff.... , I am not as young and knowledgeable as you, I got to go to bed sometime, so I cannot spend the whole night looking through eBay listings....... 5 am comes earlier every year it seems....
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 10:50am |
I'm looking at a 170 gas job for 4K...rims and sheet metal are better and it has more original paint on it. The series 4 has a high volume low pressure more modern hydraulic system and is essentially the same system as on the early 170s. That's a freeman loader, have one I don't use...same rams ...off a 2cyl JD. Can't grease the "pins"..they could be worn..I agree with most.. the loader is worth practically nothing. I would say the unit is maybe worth 3-4 k around here...MAX
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 12:06pm |
Eldon (WA) wrote:
Did AC have a special loader for the tractors with the new low pressure hydraulics?? |
I think most people would put a 417 or 517 all hydraulic loader on a Series 4, not too many with a trip bucket.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2011 at 12:30pm |
GlenninPA wrote:
Used to be able to get a search with one line of information, that you got to choose. Now you get the picture and 3-4 lines of info on each listing, plus the dang "toolbar" on the right side, and the picture, and it takes 4 or more times as long to go through a page of listings.
Now imagine that you are spending a Sunday evening scrolling through "allis" listings (multiple hundreds+ pages) looking for neat stuff.... , I am not as young and knowledgeable as you, I got to go to bed sometime, so I cannot spend the whole night looking through eBay listings....... 5 am comes earlier every year it seems.... |
Glenn, you can customize your search if you just want the title without any of that other stuff if that is how you want your results. I sure don't know if I am young and knowledgeable, either ! LoL.
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