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Les Royer 
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:03pm |
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I'm sure you've already gone over this at least a 1000 times but I went to the local tire shop and priced some new tires. Gimme your opinion about price and quality of brand. This tractor ain't gonna see a field, only concrete. And it's gonna be stored out of the sun, plus I'm only gonna live another 20 years. (if I'm lucky)
5.00-15 Carlisle tri rib fronts $65 Tubes $15
11.2-38 Farm King rears $220 Tubes $55
Edited by Les Royer - 05 Jun 2015 at 3:05pm
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victoryallis
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:46pm |
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You get what you pay for.
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:53pm |
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don't they make a tire paint or conditioner that is suppose to help make then last?
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mp38b
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:53pm |
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Go check Ebay. The tires come with the tubes and free shipping for less than that.
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 9:40pm |
 victoryallis wrote:
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I agree!
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 10:26pm |
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Agreed with eBay. We have a Carlisle as one of the fronts on our White. It amazingly makes our Goodyear on the other side look... well, good. The tread is peeling off a little, but it was like that when the tractor was delivered to us.
I don't know how well the eBay tires will be, but they're cheap, and should get the job done.
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Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 11:59pm |
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I aint never heard of either of them lol. If this tractor was gunna be used for work id recommend firestones but since its not id say go for which ever one is better quality (id guess the more expensive one) have ya priced bkt tires we have some on a few pieces of equipment an they seem to be holdin up so far
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 2:27am |
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well...if'n you'd quit renting fords, you'd have nuff money to buy them!
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 4:25am |
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With todays tires mostly coming from china, I would get me some camper tire covers, for the fronts, and somehow cover the rears, too. Its the UV radiation from the sun, that kills any tire, and starts dry rot. also, move the tractor around, once a week, to keep it from sitting in the same position, ( I say it, but seldome get it done...)
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 5:18am |
mp38b wrote:
Go check Ebay. The tires come with the tubes and free shipping for less than that. |
Every time I have checked ebay, my local tire dealer has beat their prices by a significant amount. You have to make sure you are comparing comparable tires. I recently priced 13.6 x 28 Titans and my local guy was around $75 per tire less.
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 6:12am |
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Les
Your last statement hits home for me, and probably most others here(sadly).
'our' generation is caught buying old tractor with worn tires. If you buy expensive(better ?) ones, then the NEXT generation inherits a tractor with GREAT tires!
If you're not abusing the ride, find the cheapest $$ tires you can. I know they will outlive me.....
Jay
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Les Royer
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 6:15am |
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Well I went and checked ebay, and I didn't see anything cheaper.
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I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now.
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 7:04am |
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Les,
Prices sound about right for the fronts. The rears sound like a pretty good deal. I thought the rears were a lot more?
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 7:08am |
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we've always for some reason bought tractors with good tires, but right now the '50 WD needs new ones. both the 190 XT and deere 4520 have gone though a set, but those are the big job tractors. that said all have firestones on them except a WD-45 and a Case VAC-14 that have the original 45 degree goodyears
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 8:40am |
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Check the price of Titans.They were the most competitive here when I re-shod the '34 WC and my renter runs them on one of the their working tractors.
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Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 12:26pm |
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Les I sold both brands at 1 time. At that time the Carlisle front casings were a little thin. If you are not going to put them in stubble you should be alright. Same with the Farm King rears don't put them in the stubble for at least a year, give them a chance to harden up. Price is about right for mounted tires.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 4:47pm |
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I had good luck with Sampson tires on the front of my WD with loader and WD45. 4 plies for $45-50.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 8:22pm |
jaybmiller wrote:
Les
Your last statement hits home for me, and probably most others here(sadly). 'our' generation is caught buying old tractor with worn tires. If you buy expensive(better ?) ones, then the NEXT generation inherits a tractor with GREAT tires! |
And at that point, resides the precipice of wisdom: I was not around when my Grandfather bought his D17 new... and it would be 5 decades later when I realized that the tires on his D17 were still original... and another another decade past that, that they're STILL in good shape. Let's say I was to go out and buy a set of cheap tires, knowing that they'll last long enough to outlast me. I know the farmer down the road replaces his tractors and combines about every five seasons, so he's never got tires more than six years old... Now let's say everyone with older tractors does that, so that when the next generation comes along, every tractor will have lousy tires... and there's nobody manufacturing GOOD tires anymore. The next generation will effectively never know what GOOD tires ARE. I choose to have both... both good AND cheap tires... and make sure my kids know how old the 'old' tires are, and how new the 'new' tires are, so that someday they'll say that "Dad bought THESE new in '12... but those were original on the tractor in '59..." and realize that the originals were in better shape than the replacements. Beyond that, it's just money. IMO, if I buy a tool that lasts me 1 month, and spend twice as much to buy one that lasts me 25 years, I'll opt for the second, 'cause it'll be worth even more to whoever gets it next, and hopefully they'll realize and appreciate it.  If I thought my Kubota was a better-built machine than my Allis tractors, I'd have seven Kubotas, and just one Allis...
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Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 8:51pm |
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The place I buy car and truck tires from says 5 years is all we can expect a tire to last these days. Vintage tractor tires seem to wear forever and though they get hard as they turn gray, they don't fall apart or crack like new tires at age 5 or 6. I've read part of that is tire manufacturers have figured out chemistry to limit tire life and that EPA (and/or OSHA) have restricted some of the chemicals that made tires last a long time. I had a camper tire completely destroyed last summer. It was 12 years old. The tire shop thought it had died of old age.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 11:42pm |
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All good advice. I'll look around. What I expect to see is 99 shops sellin the cheap stuff and 1 selling the good tires. If a set of firestones rears can be bought for say $280, then that's what I'm gonna get. But if they're $400, well, the thought process may take a little longer.
Edited by Les Royer - 07 Jun 2015 at 11:43pm
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Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 5:49am |
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Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 1:17pm |
Les Royer wrote:
Well I went and checked ebay, and I didn't see anything cheaper.
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 I didn't take new math, but isn't $125 for two tires and two tubes less than $160? And for what it's worth, Carlisle trailer tires got one star out of five average in the 59 reviews posted that I read. That's trailer tires, though.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 6:52pm |
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I can smell the chinese rubber, from here...
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Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:03am |
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I guess rules about not buying Chinese crap only applies to the other guy, right?
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Les Royer
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Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:17am |
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Charlie. I checked out Nebraska tire.com and they got the Goodyear titans for $355 for the rears. That sounds like money better spent than the $220 farm kings. Thanks for the tip!
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Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:23am |
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Les,
I know these tires are for the JD. What is the status on the WD?
Regards,
Chris
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Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 10:09pm |
Chris,
The WD needs to be split to replace whatever gasket or seal there
is between the torque housing and the clutch housing. It leaks all the
hydraulic fluid out. The pan gasket also leaks and after watching Don's
video, I decided to just pull the motor and put it on a stand upside
down to fix that while on my way to fixing the hydraulic leak.
To
be honest. I'm fed up with the darn thing. Seems everything I fix,
there's 5 more things wrong with it. I'm tempted to just push it out to
the barn and forget about it. I was hoping to mow with it. But after
having it here for several months, I'm further away from having it going
then when I started.
I won't part with it as it's gramps
tractor, but I've also lost all interest in getting it going. It just
needs to much. It will have to be a total restore just to mow with it.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 1:45am |
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yeah? so? IT'S FAMILY!
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 6:20am |
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was in local tire shop this week, they had a bkt poster hanging up and I ask how their luck was. the owner made the statement that ALL AG TIRES ARE MADE OVERSEAS. if their all made in some 3rd world country would be hard to argue with one being a higher quality than another
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 7:42am |
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I'm gonna email Goodyear and ask where their tires are made.
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I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now.
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