Tire questions
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Topic: Tire questions
Posted By: Les Royer
Subject: Tire questions
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:03pm
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I'm sure you've already gone over this at least a 1000 times but I went to the local tire shop and priced some new tires. Gimme your opinion about price and quality of brand. This tractor ain't gonna see a field, only concrete. And it's gonna be stored out of the sun, plus I'm only gonna live another 20 years. (if I'm lucky) 5.00-15 Carlisle tri rib fronts $65 Tubes $15 11.2-38 Farm King rears $220 Tubes $55 ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:46pm
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You get what you pay for. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:53pm
| don't they make a tire paint or conditioner that is suppose to help make then last? |
Posted By: mp38b
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 3:53pm
| Go check Ebay. The tires come with the tubes and free shipping for less than that. |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 9:40pm
I agree! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
victoryallis wrote:Posted By: matador
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 10:26pm
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Agreed with eBay. We have a Carlisle as one of the fronts on our White. It amazingly makes our Goodyear on the other side look... well, good. The tread is peeling off a little, but it was like that when the tractor was delivered to us. I don't know how well the eBay tires will be, but they're cheap, and should get the job done. |
Posted By: allis in the ozarks
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2015 at 11:59pm
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I aint never heard of either of them lol. If this tractor was gunna be used for work id recommend firestones but since its not id say go for which ever one is better quality (id guess the more expensive one) have ya priced bkt tires we have some on a few pieces of equipment an they seem to be holdin up so far ------------- allis: wd, 180, 190xt, 200, 210 "I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability" Ron White "Go ahead, make my day" Clint Eastwood |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 2:27am
| well...if'n you'd quit renting fords, you'd have nuff money to buy them! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 4:25am
| With todays tires mostly coming from china, I would get me some camper tire covers, for the fronts, and somehow cover the rears, too. Its the UV radiation from the sun, that kills any tire, and starts dry rot. also, move the tractor around, once a week, to keep it from sitting in the same position, ( I say it, but seldome get it done...) |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 5:18am
Every time I have checked ebay, my local tire dealer has beat their prices by a significant amount. You have to make sure you are comparing comparable tires. I recently priced 13.6 x 28 Titans and my local guy was around $75 per tire less. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 6:12am
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Les Your last statement hits home for me, and probably most others here(sadly). 'our' generation is caught buying old tractor with worn tires. If you buy expensive(better ?) ones, then the NEXT generation inherits a tractor with GREAT tires! If you're not abusing the ride, find the cheapest $$ tires you can. I know they will outlive me..... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 6:15am
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Well I went and checked ebay, and I didn't see anything cheaper.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 7:04am
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Les, Prices sound about right for the fronts. The rears sound like a pretty good deal. I thought the rears were a lot more? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Mike Plotner
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 7:08am
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we've always for some reason bought tractors with good tires, but right now the '50 WD needs new ones. both the 190 XT and deere 4520 have gone though a set, but those are the big job tractors. that said all have firestones on them except a WD-45 and a Case VAC-14 that have the original 45 degree goodyears ------------- 2001 Gleaner R42, 1978 7060, 1977 7000, 1966 190 XT, 1966 D-17 Series IV and 1952 WD and more keep my farm running! |
Posted By: KenBWisc
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 8:40am
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Check the price of Titans.They were the most competitive here when I re-shod the '34 WC and my renter runs them on one of the their working tractors. ------------- '34 WC #629, '49 G, '49 B, '49 WD, '62 D-19, '38 All Crop 60 and still hunting! |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2015 at 12:26pm
| Les I sold both brands at 1 time. At that time the Carlisle front casings were a little thin. If you are not going to put them in stubble you should be alright. Same with the Farm King rears don't put them in the stubble for at least a year, give them a chance to harden up. Price is about right for mounted tires. |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 4:47pm
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I had good luck with Sampson tires on the front of my WD with loader and WD45. 4 plies for $45-50. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 8:22pm
And at that point, resides the precipice of wisdom: I was not around when my Grandfather bought his D17 new... and it would be 5 decades later when I realized that the tires on his D17 were still original... and another another decade past that, that they're STILL in good shape. Let's say I was to go out and buy a set of cheap tires, knowing that they'll last long enough to outlast me. I know the farmer down the road replaces his tractors and combines about every five seasons, so he's never got tires more than six years old... Now let's say everyone with older tractors does that, so that when the next generation comes along, every tractor will have lousy tires... and there's nobody manufacturing GOOD tires anymore. The next generation will effectively never know what GOOD tires ARE. I choose to have both... both good AND cheap tires... and make sure my kids know how old the 'old' tires are, and how new the 'new' tires are, so that someday they'll say that "Dad bought THESE new in '12... but those were original on the tractor in '59..." and realize that the originals were in better shape than the replacements. Beyond that, it's just money. IMO, if I buy a tool that lasts me 1 month, and spend twice as much to buy one that lasts me 25 years, I'll opt for the second, 'cause it'll be worth even more to whoever gets it next, and hopefully they'll realize and appreciate it.  If I thought my Kubota was a better-built machine than my Allis tractors, I'd have seven Kubotas, and just one Allis... ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 8:51pm
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The place I buy car and truck tires from says 5 years is all we can expect a tire to last these days. Vintage tractor tires seem to wear forever and though they get hard as they turn gray, they don't fall apart or crack like new tires at age 5 or 6. I've read part of that is tire manufacturers have figured out chemistry to limit tire life and that EPA (and/or OSHA) have restricted some of the chemicals that made tires last a long time. I had a camper tire completely destroyed last summer. It was 12 years old. The tire shop thought it had died of old age. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2015 at 11:42pm
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All good advice. I'll look around. What I expect to see is 99 shops sellin the cheap stuff and 1 selling the good tires. If a set of firestones rears can be bought for say $280, then that's what I'm gonna get. But if they're $400, well, the thought process may take a little longer.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 5:49am
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nebraskatire.com ------------- Charlie '48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
Posted By: mp38b
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 1:17pm
 I didn't take new math, but isn't $125 for two tires and two tubes less than $160? And for what it's worth, Carlisle trailer tires got one star out of five average in the 59 reviews posted that I read. That's trailer tires, though. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 6:52pm
| I can smell the chinese rubber, from here... |
Posted By: indiana2door
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:03am
| I guess rules about not buying Chinese crap only applies to the other guy, right? |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:17am
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Charlie. I checked out Nebraska tire.com and they got the Goodyear titans for $355 for the rears. That sounds like money better spent than the $220 farm kings. Thanks for the tip! ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 9:23am
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Les, I know these tires are for the JD. What is the status on the WD? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2015 at 10:09pm
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Chris,
The WD needs to be split to replace whatever gasket or seal there
is between the torque housing and the clutch housing. It leaks all the
hydraulic fluid out. The pan gasket also leaks and after watching Don's
video, I decided to just pull the motor and put it on a stand upside
down to fix that while on my way to fixing the hydraulic leak.
To be honest. I'm fed up with the darn thing. Seems everything I fix, there's 5 more things wrong with it. I'm tempted to just push it out to the barn and forget about it. I was hoping to mow with it. But after having it here for several months, I'm further away from having it going then when I started. I won't part with it as it's gramps tractor, but I've also lost all interest in getting it going. It just needs to much. It will have to be a total restore just to mow with it. ------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 1:45am
| yeah? so? IT'S FAMILY! |
Posted By: marion
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 6:20am
| was in local tire shop this week, they had a bkt poster hanging up and I ask how their luck was. the owner made the statement that ALL AG TIRES ARE MADE OVERSEAS. if their all made in some 3rd world country would be hard to argue with one being a higher quality than another |
Posted By: Les Royer
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 7:42am
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I'm gonna email Goodyear and ask where their tires are made.
------------- I still gots my A/C but it's clear out in the barn now. |
Posted By: BigMo(TX)
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 7:52am
| I heard that all of Goodyear's ag tires are now produced by Titan, unsure if that is actaully true or not. |
Posted By: 500592
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 8:03am
| The seal between the hydraulics and clutch is easy to change with the mood out just screw a sheet metal screw into it and yank it out. Then you can put on a speedi sleeve and push the new one on. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 8:54am
| All ag tires are not made overseas!!! Firestone is in DesMoines as is Titan/Goodyear. Mitas are made in Charles City I believe. Lots of tires still made in USA. |
Posted By: Steve Zidlicky
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 11:35am
| Farm King tires are junk! I would not have them if you gave them to me if I had to keep them. they are a lot lighter weight and will crack if let set just a little low on air. for what you get, they are probably the most expensive tires on the market. I got a set of fronts one time on a trade and they went bad and were never even mounted. I put a set on the front of my 185 and let it set for a year and now have bought a better set which when you add the cost of the cheap tires to the cost of the replacement tires, they got expensive. |
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2015 at 9:17am
Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2015 at 9:30am
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Last fall I purchased (1) Goodyear DynaTorque II. 14.9-28 4 ply. It says Made by Titan on the sidewall. Also Made in USA. With heavy tube, $565 delivered. That was a tire shop west of me. East of me, at the shop that we know as the place for tractor tires, I got quoted- hang on, $1500 for a single tire. Ok the tire is also made in a 10 ply version, assuming he quoted the 10 ply DynaTorque, could a 10 ply cost $1100 dollars more than the 4 ply? I think not. Even if the 10 ply is radial vs. 4 ply bias, maybe $300 more? Last time (2011) I purchased tires there was for the C and the price was "normal". But then the dad was still there everyday, now the son is in charge. So you get what you pay for or you pay what you get tricked into? Shop it out. |
Posted By: canada mike
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2015 at 10:05am
| titan tires aren't much good anymore the don't use much if any UV stabilizer in the rubber my last set lasted 4 years before sidewall gave out they looked more rotten in 3 years than some 20 year old titans I have these where all bias ply. designed abselecence |
Posted By: Steve Zidlicky
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2015 at 10:49am
| size of tractor, type of usage and where stored makes a difference in tire life. new ones sure enough do not last like the older ones. sounds like the one tire shop has or needs an extra license. (one to steal). farm king in my opinion is still overpriced for the longevity of service you will get out of it. BKT and Titan have turned out pretty good for me. Firestones on my 6060 14.9-38 do not have near as heavy of a traction bar and I am not really impressed for that reason. I just bought a D14 with 14.9-26 Firestones that look new and they look good. I guess my thought is if it is a keeping tractor buy the best you can afford and you will save money in the long run. |