Massey Ferguson

I don't see much love for Massey Ferguson on this site. What are the issues?
Are their 1600 ans 2600 tractors OK?

BrianC wrote: I don't see much love for Massey Ferguson on this site.

Do you think it may have something to do with this being an Allis Chalmers website?

Just remember MF , doesnt always mean Massey Ferguson

michaelwis wrote: Just remember MF , doesnt always mean Massey Ferguson

Back in 1965 Dad tried out both a massey 65 and a D-17. He bought the massey. I wonder what an impact it would have been if he would have went the other way. It might have made me an AC fanatic, you recon?  Dave.

Here is my theory:
I have no problem whatsoever with Massey Ferguson, in fact, my uncle has a MF combine. I do have a big problem with AGCO corporate, though. I am dissapointed, like many others, that AGCO made a stupid decision in 2009. I myself, after college, probably will not buy a MF because I know that the money goes back to the same people who made that stupid decision in 2009. Sorry for the long post.

michaelwis wrote: Just remember MF , doesnt always mean Massey Ferguson

Yep, doesn't mean 'Mighty Fine' either.....

   Massey Harris did not invent the self propelled combine. It was invented by a man named George Stockton Berry, click link for info:  

some of the small compact tractors MF sold in the 70's & 80's were built by Toyosha of Japan, same as AC 5020, 5030. I think one of the models is 210? 

The "Massey Ferguson's" of today, are probably  the best built tractors on the market. The ones I have are dependable, and the CVT transmission can't beat. Here's where I have a problem. AGCO claims that they don't' have any heritage to Allis Chalmers, that their heritage started with Deutz Allis. Okay, I'll give them that, but then they have just as much heritage to Massey, as they do Allis Chalmers, which is none. So then why is it that in every Massey Brochure, is there this "history of Massey Ferguson"? There are no ties to Massey, other then the name. The Massey Tractor of today is a modified Fendt, and the combine grew out of the White combine. At least with Gleaner, it is still a Gleaner. The attitude is typical german, we know what is best for you. Also, when I bought my last AGCO tractor, I was told that AGCO was committed to the brand/color, six months later, the orange was gone, I figure it cost my balance sheet 15%. It was kind of funny though, I was at a farm show this past winter, talking to the Massey rep, when I asked him if Massey was going to get a four wheel drive? I got the usual talk about the challenger would have the four wheel drive line, at which point I just looked at him and said, "You guys only wanted to deal with two colors, I only want to deal with one". He really didn't know what to say. I figure I just as well throw it right back at them.

Edited by ncrc5315 - 24 Mar 2012 at 5:03pm

A Massey Ferguson is just a re-badged Fendt? Oh brother.
So the vast manufacturing facilities of Ferguson, Massey and
Harris are gone?

The 1965 MF 65 tractor, can AGCO-Massey Ferguson supply parts
for that, say transmission gears and bearings? If yes, is it NOS, or are they
still making replacement parts as needed.

 So John Deere is the sole survivor?

I think pretty much , yeah JOHN DEERE is the sole survivor of the tractor and equipment manufacturing business

mdtractormechanic wrote: BStoned says, "Your having the wrong thoughts." What? How?

   Thought you were meaning that the people may only want to talk about AC's....and this wasn't the place to talk about MF and shouldn't be bringing them up.Now through the tractor family there all kin...AC,Agco,MF,white,Oliver....

I might as well come out of the closet. I actually have quite a fondness for Fergies. For much the same reason that I do A-Cs. The first new tractor that grandpa bought after the '35 WC was a MF35 Diesel. There were also a couple of other used WCs that came along in between these two. But I digress...The Harry Ferguson part of MFs geneaology is a truly fascinating story. Mr. Ferguson was an amazing fellow. So on the Hansen Dairy and farm A-C and MF were partners long before the modern German conspiracy. That little Red & Flint Grey tractor was an amazing little work-horse and that 3-cylinder Perkins diesel acted like it was bigger than it really was. Boy did that tractor perform. All that being said, this is a site for Allis enthusiasts, but that doesn't mean we have to disparage the other brand's. I for one LIKE all the old farm tractors and equipment from our past, but LOVE the orange ones! 

They can call my new Massey planter a Massey, but I know it's really a White.  I wish it was orange and said AC on it somewhere.....