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donkey 
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 5:11pm |
Hello Everyone, This is my D17 that has been sitting 10 years. Muffler does not seat well in manifold and rain seeped in around it and I ran it. When we realized what had happened we backed it into spot in barn and parked it. Intentions were to rebuild it with my dad but he passed away the following year and I have neglected it. Debating on getting rid of it or fixing it. I am no mechanic, and I have no power in the barn are my biggest concerns. 221826 is stamped on the plate in front of shifter.  Thanks
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R.W
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 5:14pm |
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Looks Like a straight old tractor! I'd keep it!!!
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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donkey
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 5:23pm |
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Sorry the pic is so big!
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R.W
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:00pm |
Edited by R.W - 11 Feb 2012 at 6:05pm
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In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D
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norm[ind]
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:13pm |
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keep it you will be sorry later if not kept is motor stuck
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David Gibson (OH)
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:26pm |
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Looks like a keeper to me.
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donkey
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:38pm |
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motor is not stuck. I looked at a wd45 today that is what made me go and snap a pic.
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:51pm |
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Sheet metal looks great. I would say she looks pretty good!! Ryan
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Rfdeere
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 7:54pm |
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Is there water in the oil ?
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donkey
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:08pm |
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Yes there is water in oil
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:30pm |
Water in the oil from it seeping down the muffler, or water in the oil from a bad head gasket? Either way, if it's still loose, both should not be a major fix, the head gasket being more work but still easily handled by most guys who can turn a wrench and ask questions from the experts on here. If it were me, I would fix it or find someone to fix it. For one, it was something you and dad had together. Recently loosing my dad, I understand now more then ever the significance of things like that. Secondly, you have a D17, which has a power director so you already have four more speed ranges then a WD45. Not familiar with the differences in all the series, but you most likely have power steering which some WD45's have but most don't.
If you're thinking of selling, it's hard to price a nonrunner. You yourself know what you have but anyone else that may be a buyer doesn't and they don't know if you have potential tranny issues, power director issues, hydraulic issues, engine issues etc because you can't test anything. So you're gonna be lucky for someone to give you more then scrap price. I think it's worth more based on the condition of the sheetmetal and what I can see of rear tires, but you'd probably be lucky to get 800-1000 as it sits. Most likely, someone is gonna offer you 500-750. I paid 1600 for a d17 that didn't run but I did know the motor was loose and it was a series 4 so you have live hydraulics etc, so they are worth alot more. And I lucked out as I cleaned the carb and gas tank, put a battery and some gas in and it fired up after sitting for 13 years.
I would keep it and get it fixed up. If the water got down from the muffler, I would loosen the drainplug and get all the water out and leave the oil in if it isn't milky, get it running, warm it up and then change the oil and other fluids and away you go.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Wayne(IA)
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:48pm |
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I'd keep it, even with few mechanical skills it should be possible to fix and keep running. Who knows this may be the project that gives you the confidence in your mechanical ability. You can always take your time and fix it little by little. Or invite a friend with some experience with tractors over to give you some guidance every now and again. Just my 2 cents worth. btw, looks like a great tractor to me.
Wayne
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:05pm |
Someone here can pretty much walk you through anything you need to do to get it running. One thing to remember is these old tractors were designed with the idea that the guy who was a better farmer than mechanic could do just about all of his own service and repair work with basic hand tools.
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Orange Blood
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:13pm |
The serial number is on the torque tube, or bell housing, what ever you call it. right behind the carburetor side, below the air cleaner. Will start with D17.... If you are really planning to get rid of it, I may be interested depending on what series it is.
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Anthony
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HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
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tractorman
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:15pm |
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OR U can give it to one of US appreciative folks like me, and let US worry about IT. ( Dumb move ) but we would be appreciative!!!!!!!!!! tractorman
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Play on 38 B 49 WF , working on D14, D15 B10, Bee 12 B110. use 185 and 190
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donkey
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 10:00pm |
Thanks for the reply's. I guess I have some thinking to do. Sounds like non running it may be worth more in parts. I am not looking forward to moving this no matter what I decide. My Dad left me with some projects. 
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David Gibson (OH)
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 10:40pm |
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PLEASE DO NOT PART OUT THAT BEAUTIFUL TRACTOR!
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 5:05pm |
Donkey, I personaly would advise you to keep the tractor, but I also know how the economy is at this point in time and it may very well be that you need to sell. If you decide to sell, I would be very interested in purchasing your tractor...
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Glockhead SWMI
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 5:50pm |
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that's a nice tractor. fix it.
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ACFarmer
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 6:12pm |
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I'd be interested if you decide to sell. But I say keep it.
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 6:31pm |
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i agree with R.W KEEP IT!!
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Ryan Renko
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 7:13pm |
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It would be a sin to part out a fine original tractor like that!!!! Keep us posted. Ryan
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Bolivar Boy
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 8:20pm |
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how come nobody is talking about the Hudson? Geez.
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dustinmo
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 9:23pm |
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Easy, Mrs Daisey Ha
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 9:25pm |
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I'd keep it! If you don't want to tackle it there's bound to a competent mechanic in your area.I you don't want to spend the money now just drain the water out and let it set. Does the rad hold water or is it leaking down?
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 9:35pm |
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if wanting to know what its worth and your thinking of getting rid of it, i'd be interested.
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1946WP
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 9:37pm |
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I NOTICED THE HUDSON ALSO. NICE LOOKING D17. WHAT OTHER TREASURES YOU HAVE HIDDEN AROUND THERE?
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donkey
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Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 10:10pm |
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That is about all I would consider treasures. 30 x 60 building, Dad and I built the building on a shoe string budget and then he filled it. Not junk but not American Picker quality unfortunately.
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Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 1:19am |
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dude!!! them so called "pickers" on tv are fake! us on this forum...are the real "AMERICAN PICKERS"!!!
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donkey
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Posted: 13 Feb 2012 at 11:18am |
Shameless did you see what time you posted! I think you guys have convinced me to save the thing. I think I will keep in its work clothes for now though. Be prepared for some really dumb questions. When it warms up I am going to clear a little area to work. 
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