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WD45 Diesel Gearing?

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    Posted: 05 Dec 2011 at 12:32pm
I am rebuilding by grandfather's WD45 diesel.  The previous owner ran the transmission and rearend dry.  He wore out the differential ring gear and pinion shaft bearings.  The bearing spun and ruined the housing (cracked).  If I bolted up a rearend from a WD45 gas, would the gearing be a whole lot faster, or slower?  Would I really know the difference?  I realize that the serial number would be lost.  Thanks!
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the gearing would be higher on the gas rear meaning you would go faster in each gear if you put the gas rear in the diesel, the d230 turned more rpms than the gas to get the same hp,
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Thank you, Dustin.  Has anyone done this?  Would it be too fast?
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Believe I could have a complete 45D transmission and housing assy 563 652-2949 Ia
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won't be much faster.  MACK
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Chris/CT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 4:17am
I also have a bare housing and ring gear assy's  if you decide to put back original. Serial no on housing has a 45D serial no.
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Hey Mack, how much difference is there.  I hear around here from all the WD pullers that they are looking for a diesel rear end because its slower/lower.  I always wondered how much slower
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The WD-45 gas ran 1400 rpm and the diesel ran 1625 rpm so the gearing makes up the differance to get the speeds the same. The crown and pinion in D-17's are the same as the WD-45 diesels so should be easy to find.
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 Approximately 15 % difference....1400 rpm x 100% divided by 1650 rpm = 84.8 %
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Originally posted by GlenB(IA) GlenB(IA) wrote:

Thank you, Dustin.  Has anyone done this?  Would it be too fast?
 
I can't imagine for everyday use you would ever be able to tell the difference except maybe in first or second gear.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill Deppe/AC Salvag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2011 at 9:00am

The pto speed may not match the grouind speed use in some cases

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