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craigreavley 
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 Topic: new holland 268 hayliner question
Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:28pm |
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baled tonight, and the baler knots are coming apart. The one side ties and both ends of the string are not hanging past the knot. One of the strings is only half out of the knot and the other half is wrapped in the knot what would be causing this
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norm[ind]
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Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:30pm |
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CHECK THE BILL HOOKS FOR WEAR OR BENT
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craigreavley
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Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 8:40pm |
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i am not sure what a worn billhook would look like. There is some play up and down on the bill hook shaft the good knotter is tight the bad knot side has an eighth inch play up and down on the billhook shaft could that play be the issue
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Teddy (punchie)
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Posted: 01 Jul 2011 at 9:22pm |
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The side with the looped knot: I don't have a book here but that is a common problem, I can tell you it is almost never a billhook (worn will have a grove, in the hook or the tuque ) make sure it is smooth if not steel wool it until all rust is gone and roughness is gone. I'm thinking it is tension at the twine box, or twine holder, I know the 273 NH twine holder at the knotter can break very easy if over tightened. Just a piece of spring steel, sometimes they wear out. You should not be able to pull the twine out of the knotter easily, should take about 60-80 lbs to pull it out, only make it tight enough to hold the twine to make a knot. There is also a tensioner on the billhook that need to be checked.
The uneven knot ends maybe a the knife needs sharpened.
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BobHnwO
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Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 4:26am |
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What Teddy said,make sure knives are sharp.
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mtanut
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Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 5:30am |
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Other thing to check is the knife arm. Take the bolt out of the bottom of the knotter, then swing it up in the air, pull the cotter key and remove the knife arm. There is a brass ball on to of the arm and over the years it will develop flat spots on it.When the knotter cycles it won't work smooth and hang up in the casting, hence the not cutting right and hanging up on one side. Good luck balers are a love hate relationship.
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Posted: 02 Jul 2011 at 7:06am |
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I would check for a bent twine finger. It sounds like the #2 twine is not being delivered to the knotter properly. Also make sure the twine discs are timed properly, if there not uneven cutting of the string will result. As well bill hook tongue pressure may be too light resulting in the ends of the twine pulling out of the billhook before the knifearm can wipe the knot off. Good luck
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CORLEWFARM
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Posted: 03 Jul 2011 at 11:23am |
CHECK THE GEAR ON THE BIRDBILL THE FLAT SPOT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY FLAT.IT LETS THE BIRDBILL MOVE TOO MUCH IF WORN
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