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   I have the option to buy a hd4 loader with rippers for $2200.  It runs good.  I put it in gear put in forward and let the clutch out and it pulls straight.  I pulled the two levers one at a time and it slightly pulled each direction.  Would this mean it needs new brake bands on each side?  the levers pull all the way back to the seat like its majorly out of adjustment.  second issue is, whats it worth?  Is it worth the gamble that it will be easily fixed?  Needless to say I'm only 25yrs old and don't have tons of cash.I have 30ac I'm trying to clean up and my track steer isn't quite stout enough.  Thanks in advance for the help.  

Oh by the way this will be my second AC.  Also have a pretty nice 1950 model b I saved from scrap.

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chrisw21_2000 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote chrisw21_2000 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: hd4 questions Posted: 15 Jun 2011 at 8:18pm
	I have the option to buy a hd4 loader with rippers for $2200. It runs good. I put it in gear put in forward and let the clutch out and it pulls straight. I pulled the two levers one at a time and it slightly pulled each direction. Would this mean it needs new brake bands on each side? the levers pull all the way back to the seat like its majorly out of adjustment. second issue is, whats it worth? Is it worth the gamble that it will be easily fixed? Needless to say I'm only 25yrs old and don't have tons of cash.I have 30ac I'm trying to clean up and my track steer isn't quite stout enough. Thanks in advance for the help. Oh by the way this will be my second AC. Also have a pretty nice 1950 model b I saved from scrap.

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Steve allis dozer Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Access Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Location: Australia Points: 232	Post Options Post Reply Quote Steve allis dozer Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 5:14am
	Has it got steering brake pedals like a hd3? if so the two hand levers are for disengaging the drive for each track then it woud turn slowly when you put the foot brake while holding the hand lever back, should stop that side track , and make a sharp turn, hope that makes sense . steve

Kipn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Tewksbury, Ma Points: 800	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kipn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 9:27am
	$2200 sounds like the seller wants 2 grand for it. The biggest expense on a dozer are the tracks. Look closely at them. Still the price seems good. At the very least its worth scrap price on 10k lbs at whatever your local prices is.
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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41932	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Jun 2011 at 9:58am
	OK - HD4 is a 3 speed trany with a torque converter and a fwd/rev lever on left side along with the throttle lever , NO CLUTCH. On the floor are two pedals which control the brake bands . The two levers are for the steering clutch on each side , pulling lever will disengage the track on that side and machine will turn slowly, hitting the brake pedal heavily should stop track and allow ahard turn. Brake bands are cheap if that is only problem , track and sprockets are next to impossible to find . You might find pins and bushings if rail height is good yet. For the price in the $2000 range it wold be worth that then depending if gas or diesel as the AC 2200 engine came in either fuel.
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randalleky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 02 Dec 2010 Location: belfry, ky Points: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote randalleky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 3:24pm
	i am just curious. is the as 2200 engines gas or diesel the same block ? thanks randal
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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41932	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2011 at 4:54pm
	Yes to that block as well as many parts on the engine . It was also used on cotton pickers and forklifts . It was also equiped with a turbo in some applications. Heard in that configuration thay got 85 HP from that little engine
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