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victoryallis 
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 Topic: Funk and a Cummins
Posted: 19 May 2023 at 6:09pm |
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I know the Agco Whites are available with a Funk tranny and a 8.3 Cummins any Agco or Agco Allis with that combo?
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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ryan(IN)
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Posted: 19 May 2023 at 6:38pm |
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9700 series and the plain DT series have Cummins with the 18spd funk.
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bigal121892
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Posted: 19 May 2023 at 7:10pm |
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The 94XX/96XX/9815 AGCO-Allis, had the Funk transmissions with the Detroit Diesel, (upgraded IH) 466/530 cubic inch engines. I know you're partial to the Cummins, but these were very good engines as well.
Edited by bigal121892 - 20 May 2023 at 7:50am
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victoryallis
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Posted: 19 May 2023 at 9:24pm |
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I don’t know enough about Detroit’s to have an opinion either way. Got 3 8.3’s in the fleet so familiar with them.
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TramwayGuy
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Posted: 20 May 2023 at 5:56am |
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Funk is owned by John Deere. Do the green tractors have the same transmission?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 May 2023 at 6:27am |
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No. Funk also built the Terra-Shift transmission for TerraGators years ago.
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Lynn Marshall
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Posted: 20 May 2023 at 6:59am |
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I don't think that Agco really wanted to refer to those engines as Detroits. Too many people instantly assumed they were some 2 stroke,oil leaker design. Agco preferred that they were called Navistar. Penske also had something to do with them,I think?? Regardless, they have proven to be damn good engines. New Holland genesis tractors used a variation of the Funk transmission, didn't they?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 May 2023 at 7:19am |
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Genesis tranny was like the "gen #1" of that 18-speed that AGCO used. Genesis only had 16 speeds with 9th and 10th overlapping, where AGCO didn't overlap and had 18 speeds. The Baby Challenger from Caterpillar had the same tranny as the Genesis. John Deere's 8000 series tranny was always unique because of the way it was placed into the chassis, versus the other manufacturers. I'm sure many of the clutch parts/control valve solenoids etc could have interchanged between the different brands, but most of the other hard parts would have been unique to Deere's tractors.
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