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Kiwi 
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Posted: 27 Oct 2021 at 10:05pm |
Hi all I have just been offerd a 8010 4x4 allis I was told it is stuck in high range and the injector pump is leaking how hard is it to fix. It sounds in rough condition . He was looking for $ 5750 USD and wants it to go to someone who will fix her up . what do I need to look for . Thanks
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DrAllis
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 6:27am |
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Stuck in "HIGH" range ?? That could be as simple as a cable issues OR a seized gear on the pinion shaft in the rear end. That would be a huge repair.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 7:52am |
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I'd have to know what "stuck in high" means. Like Doc says, could be minor or catastrophic. Owner probably has a clue.....beware.
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PeteMN
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 12:59pm |
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Here that tractor would have sold right away. The leaking injection pump could be the lip seal on the shaft that drives the pump. You can pull the pump and replace it without needing to rebuild the injection pump, otherwise a rebuilt pump is about $700-1000. Lots of PS transmission problems were caused by bad cables or bad dirt shields that allowed crud to build up on top of the transmission where the cable attaches to the shifter lever. We bought a rough looking 8050 that was in a heated shop when we tried it out, the trucker delivered it on a frigid day and we broke the shift mechanism in the side console because we couldn't get it to shift out of park. We cleaned out the crud, welded the shifter bracket, replaced the cable and it shifted ok. I haven't heard of many internal problems on those transmissions though it is possible. Parts are getting harder to find for the FWD axles.
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DougG
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 5:22pm |
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Dont those have the Ambac injrctor pumps ? Do they have the umbrella seals ?
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Lynn Marshall
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 7:52pm |
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Early tractors used a Rossamaster pump. Later ones had the Ambac. Neither used the old umbrella type seals.
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Ron(AB)
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Posted: 28 Oct 2021 at 7:55pm |
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How many hours?
Did it have a loader?
Do you have a use for it?
Some of the pre-decision questions for me. Otherwise anything could be fixed...with enough money!
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PeteMN
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Posted: 29 Oct 2021 at 1:09am |
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You guys are right, the DM roosamaster pump had two lip seals instead of the umbrella type on the 190, etc.
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victoryallis
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Posted: 29 Oct 2021 at 6:19am |
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As long as you have all the gears in high range if the only other problem is a leaky pump I’d pounce yesterday at that price. My 7580 lost low range on the floor been zip tied into high for a few years sucks hooking up implements but I survive. Take the trap doors out of the floor once it’s home and the counsole cover off and start playing.
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ajl
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Posted: 29 Oct 2021 at 6:09pm |
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Have an 8070 with PD and when I got it the tractor was difficult to shift into high range. Today I can get it into high range without much difficulty and I have done nothing to it other than exercise the shift mechanism. Any used front wheel assist tractor is sold around here because everybody is looking for one. Anyways quite happy I have my 8070 and the price tag on that unit seems quite reasonable.
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