190xt disc?

Just bought a JD 310 which is 14 foot. I think I'll be alright.

Hooked up to my brothers Kewanee 1020 (22 foot) and pulled the wheels up. Stopped my tractor and just started spinning. Tires are loaded but I haven't found duals for it yet. I just bought a JD 310 that's 14 wide, pick it up tomorrow. Fresh plowed ground. The smaller one will work for now. Don't want to take out the drive being silly. It's an early 190xt.

kewannee 1020's are heavy !! the disk will bury itself if you let it. that would be quite a bit for a 190 in heavy ground I would think

Are you talking about a cut or offset disk, a leveling disc? Lots of different disks out there. I pull a AC 2200 bat wing, 20’ leveling disc after a plow or offset disc has cut up the ground pretty well. The mighty XT has no trouble pulling it.

AC720Man wrote: Are you talking about a cut or offset disk, a leveling disc? Lots of different disks out there. I pull a AC 2200 bat wing, 20’ leveling disc after a plow or offset disc has cut up the ground pretty well. The mighty XT has no trouble pulling it.

I have a 13’ 470 ih disk that will work an 8050. It has 22” blades and 2600 pounds of weight on top of it and cuts 5-6” deep. The same tractor pulls a 22’ 490 2” deep at 6mph.

I pulled it in 4th gear at 2,000 rpm in this particular field due to some large limestone rocks I had to avoid. I feel she would pull it in 6th at 2,000 rpm if I would not have had to worry about looking for the rocks. Yes she has had Ed’s magical touch in the pump but that doesn’t come into play until beyond 2,300 rpm for pulling season lol. I keep her below that on the farm because it has all the power I need. She runs a constant 170-175 degrees even in the summer according to the temp gauge.

The AC 2200 series manual has a picture of the 190 pulling the disc so it must have been designed for it.

Norms book clearly shows a picture of a 190 pulling a 20 ft 2000 series disc. The XT pictured above is mine. The disc behind it is 20 ft total width belonging to my brother Charlie and I. I had just came out the 6 acre field that I disc for my neighbor free of charge because he doesn’t have a leveling disc. My XT performed as I said it did. I don’t need a video or picture of it in operation as proof because I was in the seat operating it.
Charlie and Dr Allis both gave you factual information.

   Farmed most of my life with that type of tractor if you dual an early 190 up and pull that size disc you will be repairing the rear end!!!   I love the 190 would rather drive it than a 4020, or 806/866 any day of the week but that's still the fact.    Drop back to a 16' disc with 22" blades and It'll last forever  & do a better job.   Your teeth look like they are worn down to 17 or 18 inches Big Difference in how hard it pulls & the Quality of seed bed left behind.   Not being critical just facts.   Diesel experts telling us for years drop engine RPM's 30 % and on average (in same conditions) & you will increase engine life by 50 %.  Never load a truck or trailer over 75% and you"ll notice a similar increase in tires, brakes, and springs.   The same rule of thumb goes for pulling your tractor guts out.  There are far more 190's in the real world pulling 16 ' than 20'.    You can enjoy your day more with less stress on you and the tractor if you put that 20' disc  (with 22" to 24" teeth) on a 200/210  7020/7040 size tractor.   Housemover

I pulled my 2500 disk yesterday with the 200. It is 19-1/2' or 20'. Was plenty for it but if it had duals it would be OK. Pulled it in 2nd gear high range. Plenty of power but in the wetter clay hills it would spin. Like I say duals would have eliminated that. I really didn't think it would pull it at all but my 7050 needs a hydraulic valve repaired as one valve suddenly got stuck and so I only had a little over 50 acres to do and I thought I give the 200 a try. I wouldn't want the 200 to make it's living pulling one that big but is certainly was capable.

Charlie175 wrote: Manual FREEDGUY wrote: Charlie175 wrote: The AC 2200 series manual has a picture of the 190 pulling the disc so it must have been designed for it. You and another poster have brought up this "2200" series disc in a "PICTURE" . What size (width) is this machine?? I've seen "pictures" in the early '80's of a Chevy pick up pulling a crap ton of rail cars and "pictures" of a Burger King Whopper, but my whopper NEVER looks like the "picture" . Sadly. I've learned NOT to believe everything in an advertisement "picture"

Unless you compare exact models and soil types this thread is pointless.   We pulled a 18 foot Deere with the 7000 easily went to a much heavier Sunflower disc pulled behind a 8050 MFWD. 

FREEDGUY wrote: Charlie175 wrote: Manual FREEDGUY wrote: Charlie175 wrote: The AC 2200 series manual has a picture of the 190 pulling the disc so it must have been designed for it. You and another poster have brought up this "2200" series disc in a "PICTURE" . What size (width) is this machine?? I've seen "pictures" in the early '80's of a Chevy pick up pulling a crap ton of rail cars and "pictures" of a Burger King Whopper, but my whopper NEVER looks like the "picture" . Sadly. I've learned NOT to believe everything in an advertisement "picture" Yet again, NO width specs and I'm not going to google it . Looks like the Burger King  ad pictures to me LOL!! Any D series tractor could pull your "pic" on a concrete/gravel driveway in the "transport" position

FREEDGUY wrote: Charlie175 wrote: Manual FREEDGUY wrote: Charlie175 wrote: The AC 2200 series manual has a picture of the 190 pulling the disc so it must have been designed for it. You and another poster have brought up this "2200" series disc in a "PICTURE" . What size (width) is this machine?? I've seen "pictures" in the early '80's of a Chevy pick up pulling a crap ton of rail cars and "pictures" of a Burger King Whopper, but my whopper NEVER looks like the "picture" . Sadly. I've learned NOT to believe everything in an advertisement "picture" Yet again, NO width specs and I'm not going to google it . Looks like the Burger King  ad pictures to me LOL!! Any D series tractor could pull your "pic" on a concrete/gravel driveway in the "transport" position

here is what I can tell you. I know for a fact that a 190 can pull a 20 foot 2200 pretty comfortably in our clay soil. Dad has a 20 foot 2200 sitting in the pasture he used to pull with his XT. It's a fairly light disk, not like a 2500 or 2600 of the same width. They pull much heavier.