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Hunt4Allis 
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 4:35pm |
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I have 4 rims/ spin-out type and can't seem to break the 1/2" square head bolts loose to peice 2 good sets together, any trick to loosen these?
I don't have a torch set, I tried bolt loosening spray and a 1/2" impa t gun with no luck???
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 4:41pm |
Dennis can show you how. [TUBE]l2qXT3GGc5w[/TUBE]
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 05 Aug 2018 at 4:44pm
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 4:49pm |
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If you can unbolt and remove the eccentric blocks one at a time, you can leave the wheel on the tractor. Depending on how rusted up things are, this may be the easiest way.
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chalmera
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 5:55pm |
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Get a handheld MAPP torch. 20 minutes and all 4 will be loose.
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john(MI)
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 6:52pm |
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I have 8 that are loose and for sale!
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 9:01pm |
thanks ctuckernwil, I will give dennis's way a go tomorrow John(mi) what do you want for the eight?
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john(MI)
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Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 11:10pm |
 Hunt4Allis wrote:
John(mi) what do you want for the eight? |
I sent you a PM.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:57am |
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 6:50am |
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Well I ended up getting enough of them free to rebuild my two CA Wheels on my new spinout rims .They actually work how they are supposed to once I put them together I tested them and they worked as they should, thanks guys
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Posted: 11 Aug 2018 at 10:50am |
I have done enough of these now that they don't intimidate me. But they almost always have to be take apart and cleaned and never seize added to the moving surfaces. Glad to hear you got them apart and working again. Regards,
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 8:43am |
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Yep, definitely used never sieze on all parts as I put them back together.
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wdtractor
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 9:41am |
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I have a WD with spin out rims can you remove the spin out cams without removing the entire wheel off the tractor?
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Hunt4Allis
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 10:54am |
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I had to remove entire wheels and I used link that was shared title " Dennis can show you how and it worked great, hard part is freeing up small parts afterwards, ended up using entire can of PB and heated with my brother large torch that he uses to solder 4" copper...
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Posted: 12 Aug 2018 at 1:14pm |
wdtractor wrote:
I have a WD with spin out rims can you remove the spin out cams without removing the entire wheel off the tractor?
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Yes almost always easier to remove the tire (unless its loaded and too heavy) and then unbolt the brackets and gently tap the wheel center with a 10 lb sledge from 5 feet above the wheel!:) As mentioned the actual turning of the eccentric after removal may required a torch. Regards, Chris
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 12:57pm |
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I appreciate the information and your time,Thank You
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 12:59pm |
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Thank You for the information and your time
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 7:54pm |
I know the original post was for a CA (square head eccentrics) but for the WD and WD45 hex head eccentrics that are hard to loosen, I have a 3/4" drive 3/4" impact (deep) socket and this 40" - 3/4" drive breaker bar ( https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200668201_200668201) to break them free. I have never had one that didn't turn. I spray a few times (over a couple days if possible) with Kroil before I try them and give them a good spray after they are off. It has always worked for me.
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Posted: 13 Aug 2018 at 11:44pm |
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First off, Dennis needs a bigger hammer LOL! I have never had to swing my 16# sledge more than twice to get a hub to pop out! Also, I try to drive the eccentric back and forth (they will move 1/8" of more with the snap ring on), with a 2# hammer, lots of PB Blaster, get them to move back and forth, then hold them on a 4x4 piece of wood with my foot and go after them with the 1/2" impact wrench.
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