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    Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 11:58am
Has anyone thrown these cams into a bed of red hot coals and then took them out and they were loose? I just sprayed them but I read somewhere they loosened them up by throwing them into a fire? Sounds easier than beating them and spraying them? Im looking for input on the easiest way to loosen them up, I already have them off the center ready to start the process, Thank you
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dad and I threw them into a wood stove in the coals and pulled them out red hot and they turned easily and the rust falls out when turning them
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Excellent that is what I am going to do This weekend heat them up!
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worked mine with an impact gun...
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I have found that electrolysis works wonders on seized up on the wheel eccentrics.
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Originally posted by WD45Diesel57 WD45Diesel57 wrote:

dad and I threw them into a wood stove in the coals and pulled them out red hot and they turned easily and the rust falls out when turning them


Also did that with a set from a D14.  Left them in the air tight wood stove over night.  Things started to loosen up after that.
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I have loosened 24 of them but never tried putting them in the fire. I have used oxy/acct torch to get them red and then loosening the eccentric.
Good luck, they do get stuck tight!
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I would also try the wood stove method.
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I thought it was a lot easier (but maybe not as much fun ) by using the rose bud heat wrench like Chris did.
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I think it's time for weeny roast.
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If you have a Weber Kettle, just start it up with plenty of charcoal and throw them in it over night.  Works GREAT!!  I have done it several times.  I have a bunch I need to do one of these days.  Easiest and fastest way to do it!
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I have got 8 out of 12 to work by pounding them back and forth in a vise
with pb blaster the other 4 im going to have to cook LOL! but the weber trick is an excellent idea.. I will give that a go as the other non respectful cams will not budge even after 3 days in pb blaster! Thank you so much for the ideas!!I will let you know the outcome..
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Wow, I'm starting to feel really, really lucky.  The spin-outs on my WD haven't been used for more than 20 years.  A couple months ago I needed to move 1 wheel out about an inch for clearance on something.  I thought that this may be a BIG JOB.  I got a 1/2 inch drive socket and breaker bar and give it a try.  NO PROBLEM.  The spin-outs broke loose pretty easy and we moved the wheel and tightened them with very little trouble.  I was amazed.  After seeing this post, I'm feeling very lucky too. 
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Hey I had to Ice down my shoulders after pounding and spraying these cams so yes count your blessings!! I believe my last resort is the weber method besides that frees up my hands to pour some drinks while it cooks LOL!!! Instead of flipping burgers I will be flipping cams..

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Originally posted by brenpak brenpak wrote:

Hey I had to Ice down my shoulders after pounding and spraying these cams so yes count your blessings!! I believe my last resort is the weber method besides that frees up my hands to pour some drinks while it cooks LOL!!! Instead of flipping burgers I will be flipping cams..

AND, the better half won't pop a cork finding them in HER oven!
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