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Randy WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 838 |
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I have a CA that we bought last summer and I would like to move the wheel spacing but found the eccentrics stuck. I have been spraying PB blaster on them but no luck so far. so do any of you have some advice that would help. Thanks Randy
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grinder220 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2012 Location: Clinton Iowa Points: 2372 |
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I use a 1inch impact gun but I know not everyone has one of those so the next best option would be heat.
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Gary ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5902 |
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Be careful with those CA eccentrics. That little square nose is not near as strong as the hex head on other models. I would remove all 3 eccentrics from the wheel, put them in a vise, and heat them at an appropriate area, one at a time. Use the reverse end of an extension to fit the square head. Gary |
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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I unbolted mine and beat them off the wheel. Been a few years but I think I was able to re use the bolts after cleaning every thing up.
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JW in MO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 2010 Location: South KC Area Points: 2666 |
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Exactly what Dick said. Don't ever apply heat to a wheel with a tire mounted and aired up.
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 54182 |
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Once unbolted, soak the clamp i your favorite penetrating potion. Then take a hammer, and a punch, and get the cam moving front to back. Once it moves a little, then try twisting, CCW and CW. once it moves a little each way, alternate with an air impact. Don't over torque, as others have said, or you'll break off the head. When you get it moving on penetrating oil, dis-assemble, and coat with never-seize lube...
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Randy WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 838 |
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I have a wheel wrench that came with the tractor and have put quite a bit of torque on them but was afraid of twisting the head off. I will try to take them off and soak them in snake oil and see if that works thanks for the help Randy |
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sparky ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 2011 Location: So. Indiana Points: 1784 |
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Don't get in hurry with them. They will free up with some patience.
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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dawntreader74 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Manteno Points: 1770 |
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can you take the bolts out of the center; an take a block of wood an a mall an knock the center out' like you would on a wd ?
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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treat it like a woman!
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Gary Burnett ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Virginia Points: 3090 |
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Clay ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9899 |
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I used a 20mm socket and an air impact to move the eccentrics on my D-17
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GregLawlerMinn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lawler, Mn Points: 1226 |
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P,P, and PP (Patience. Persistence. and Panther Pi$$). Remove tire from tractor. unbolt the eccentrics from the centers. use a block of wood and pound the center out of the rim. Remove the retaining rings from the eccentric bolts. Apply the Panther Pi$$. Tap the eccentric bolts from both ends until they move, try turning. Repeat until you can remove the bolts. Clean bolts on wire wheel and use emery cloth on the bolt holes to remove the corrosion. Apply never seize to the bolts and re-assemble. Lean tire against wall (outside facing you) and install a bottom eccentric housing w/block on rail at about the 5 O'clock position. install the bolts to the center, install the other bottom eccentric housing and block on the other rail and slide it down to approx. the 7 O'clock and install the mounting bolts to the center. Repeat for the top two eccentrics. Tighten the eccentric mounting bolts to the center. Clean the center hole, hub and wheel bolts and apply never seize and re-mount the tire to the tractor. I purchased an 8 point 1/2" impact socket from Snap On that works great on the CA eccentric bolt heads. Now that I have reminded myself of how to; time to go after the frozen eccentics on my D14.
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Currently have: 1 D14 and a D15S2. With new owners: 2Bs,9CAs,1WD,2 D12s,5D14s,3D15S2s, 2D17SIVs,D17D,1D19D;1 Unstyled WC |
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DennisA (IL) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ridott IL. Points: 2064 |
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Click on the link to watch the video
Wheel Eccentric |
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Thanks & God Bless
Dennis |
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Randy WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 838 |
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Thanks Dennis that was a great video I will be doing mine soon hope that it goes as well for me thanks again Randy
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |
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Randy, I've done LOTS of them. Take them off the wheel and then throw them into a good campfire and leave em over night. They'll practically fall apart. Take the snap rings off and use a wire wheel to clean them up. Use never sieze on the bolt part where it goes through the eccentric, NOT anywhere else.
Make it a practice to turn them at LEAST once a year. I do mine twice, once in the fall and once in the spring. They STILL turn easily. |
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Brian F(IL) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Paxton, IL Points: 2717 |
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It doesn't take much effort to twist off the square-headed eccentrics. Yep, I did it. Use patience and what everybody else has said.
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Randy WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 838 |
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I have one wheel off and the eccentrics off and in a small can of diesel there were Three with the cam and two set screw lock clamps am having trouble getting them loose. if the diesel doesn't work I will try the bon fire thing next. Thanks Randy
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