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    Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 10:40pm
Hi everybody. Has anyone ever replaced the pipe that goes between the rear axle to front. The company that made the running gear isn't in business anymore. What would you use to replace it. Thanks

Edited by Mikez - 26 Oct 2016 at 10:58pm
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i went to a steel yard an got a new pipe same size out side with like 1\2 in'' wall pipe' an drilled new holes in it an was like a new gear for around $20oo
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:16pm
Oh good idea
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you can cut it how ever long you care to have it. for a grain wagon you want it short an strong. do a good job'' Smile
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yeah....don't buy thin wall pipe. and you want your box runners to sit a least a foot out on each end of the bolsters.
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shameless' that 1\2 wall pipe is stout as he'''\\ thank it will be good i used it on one with a 185 grain box w\ side board that size should do it  RIGHT''
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I had one done by a machine shop.  
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All depends on the size of the running gear.
The one on my Cobey running gear with a Precision flare box is even 1/4". It has 4 bolt hubs. 1/2" pipe on a 2 ton running gear is overkill. Now on a 10 ton, maybe. Best thing to do would be to find a comparable size one and see what size it uses. Any more than a couple inches sticking out each end is a waste, because it has nothing to leverage against.
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I think if you check the old tube it's not pipe it's round mechanical tubing, check the OD and ID of the tubing and if it has a tube inside a tube you need to get seamless tubing too before just going to the big box store and finding a piece of water pipe that will go in the hole. lol 
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I personally have never seen one thicker than a 1/4 inch. Most are closer to 3/16. I have made several. Depends on the gear maker. Most of the Electric Wheel gears use same size gage pole. HTH Tracy
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That "center pipe" is called a "reach" going way back to the old horse drawn wagons when it was made of wood.
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WE called that center piece on horse drawn wagons a coupling pole .{coupled front to rear } Had holes in it to extend wheelbase .
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We always called it a reach also. My dad use to build a lot of running gears and he used pipe also. If it was a heavier gear he would schedule 80 pipe also known as double strength pipe.
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Yea sometimes we call it a reach too. Thanks for the good advise
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I believe in some cases you will find it is an odd size, requiring DOM.  (Drawn over mandrel,) which is seamless, and expensive.
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Originally posted by Tracy Martin TN Tracy Martin TN wrote:

I personally have never seen one thicker than a 1/4 inch. Most are closer to 3/16. I have made several. Depends on the gear maker. Most of the Electric Wheel gears use same size gage pole. HTH Tracy


Yes, the "reach" as Electric Wheel Co referred to it, used same thickness as end frames(axles). Reach was engineered to bend before the end frames bent. If you over-engineer the thickness of its reach, look-out for end frame compromises.
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