Wagon gear center pipe
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Topic: Wagon gear center pipe
Posted By: Mikez
Subject: Wagon gear center pipe
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 10:40pm
| Hi everybody. Has anyone ever replaced the pipe that goes between the rear axle to front. The company that made the running gear isn't in business anymore. What would you use to replace it. Thanks |
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Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:11pm
| i went to a steel yard an got a new pipe same size out side with like 1\2 in'' wall pipe' an drilled new holes in it an was like a new gear for around $20oo |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:16pm
| Oh good idea |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:23pm
you can cut it how ever long you care to have it. for a grain wagon you want it short an strong. do a good job'' 
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:35pm
| yeah....don't buy thin wall pipe. and you want your box runners to sit a least a foot out on each end of the bolsters. |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2016 at 11:43pm
| shameless' that 1\2 wall pipe is stout as he'''\\ thank it will be good i used it on one with a 185 grain box w\ side board that size should do it RIGHT'' |
Posted By: ac160
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 5:36am
| I had one done by a machine shop. |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 6:54am
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All depends on the size of the running gear. The one on my Cobey running gear with a Precision flare box is even 1/4". It has 4 bolt hubs. 1/2" pipe on a 2 ton running gear is overkill. Now on a 10 ton, maybe. Best thing to do would be to find a comparable size one and see what size it uses. Any more than a couple inches sticking out each end is a waste, because it has nothing to leverage against. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 8:59am
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I think if you check the old tube it's not pipe it's round mechanical tubing, check the OD and ID of the tubing and if it has a tube inside a tube you need to get seamless tubing too before just going to the big box store and finding a piece of water pipe that will go in the hole. lol
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 9:50am
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I personally have never seen one thicker than a 1/4 inch. Most are closer to 3/16. I have made several. Depends on the gear maker. Most of the Electric Wheel gears use same size gage pole. HTH Tracy
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:36am
| That "center pipe" is called a "reach" going way back to the old horse drawn wagons when it was made of wood. |
Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 11:58am
| WE called that center piece on horse drawn wagons a coupling pole .{coupled front to rear } Had holes in it to extend wheelbase . |
Posted By: Rick143
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 12:30pm
| We always called it a reach also. My dad use to build a lot of running gears and he used pipe also. If it was a heavier gear he would schedule 80 pipe also known as double strength pipe. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 12:42pm
| Yea sometimes we call it a reach too. Thanks for the good advise |
Posted By: Jordan(OH)
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 2:20pm
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I believe in some cases you will find it is an odd size, requiring DOM. (Drawn over mandrel,) which is seamless, and expensive. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2016 at 3:11pm
Yes, the "reach" as Electric Wheel Co referred to it, used same thickness as end frames(axles). Reach was engineered to bend before the end frames bent. If you over-engineer the thickness of its reach, look-out for end frame compromises. |
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