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    Posted: 20 May 2016 at 4:47pm
My son and I have been arguing about what is the best oil weight and brand to run in our gas AC tractors (B up thru a 180G). I was wondering what everyone's opinions were and what they were running. I know this has been discussed before, but I wanted a new post with unbiased opinions to let him see what everyone is running.

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Shell Rotella 15/40 works well for me. I use it in everything on the farm--Gas or Diesel 
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Any detergent oil, personally, I prefer multi weight.

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Any GOOD multi weight detergent oil. 35WC, 38B, 51CA, 54WD45, and  60 D17.
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Rotella 15w40
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Usedta use amsoil 30 weight, now I am changing to Mobil 1 full synthetic 10w30.  We'll see...
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Rotella 10/30 as I use tractor in the winter some.
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Kendall 15W-40 diesel grade oil in all the tractors gas or diesel for the last 20 years.
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If you start any of your old tractors in cold weather, Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel 5w-40 would also be a good choice.  It is also rated for gas engine use. 
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Whatever 10-30 is cheep. Any new oil is seperior to the ND straight wieght it had when new. I change the oil and filter every couple years or so. Been doing that for decades and they still work good.
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Im with Dave... 10 w 30 detergent oil ... Wal Mart brand in all my smaller tractors. Use Mobil 5 w 20 in the trucks and SUV.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Caseih low ash 30w goes in all my gas tractors, and caseih #1 30w goes in all my diesel tractors.
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  the caseih low ash oil for gas tractors is about the best.   the rest of the oils are great but gas tractors are kind of a breed of there own.
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10w40 Valvoline synthetic. Or 10/30 in winter. 

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I use 10w30 in my gas engines for years and 15w40 Rotella in my diesels 
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Original manual for all my old tractors (which are gas) say 10W winter and 30W summer so I also run modern conventional 10W-30. I don't run synthetic. I don't think these old engines were designed with close enough specs to really benefit from it over conventional. 
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Amsoil 10W30 full synthetic with Napa Gold filters. Use mine year round.

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F/S 10W30 OR F/S 15W40 designed for farm use.
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The oil I add to my tractors has alot to do with which part is leaking. Lately I have had to add alot of hydraulic oil but I just got the power steering fixed so it should just be time to change the 10 w 30 motor oil. Someone told me a long time ago the old gas motors where designed for 30 weight and that was what you should run. Never seemed to be a seasonal issue running 30 weight in the d17 year round here. It has run on that since the 60s when my grandfather bought it and the 226 is still running great. That is one well built motor.
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Originally posted by cpg cpg wrote:

Original manual for all my old tractors (which are gas) say 10W winter and 30W summer so I also run modern conventional 10W-30. I don't run synthetic. I don't think these old engines were designed with close enough specs to really benefit from it over conventional. 



I know it's picky, but there is no 30w oil-----------------the "w" after an oil viscosity denotes that it meets the winter specifications for that viscosity.  These specifications stop at 25 weight oils.   Wink

Actually, when new, some of the engines probably did have as tight of clearances as today's engines.  It's just that some also had looser clearances than today's engines as machining tolerances were not as well controlled back then.


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wally 10w30 synthetic since modern oils gave flat tappets the finger
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Even the worst modern oil is better than what was available back in the day. Change the oil and change it often.
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Originally posted by 427435 427435 wrote:



Originally posted by cpg cpg wrote:

Original manual for all my old tractors (which are gas) say 10W winter and 30W summer so I also run modern conventional 10W-30. I don't run synthetic. I don't think these old engines were designed with close enough specs to really benefit from it over conventional. 




I know it's picky, but there is no 30w oil-----------------the "w" after an oil viscosity denotes that it meets the winter specifications for that viscosity.  These specifications stop at 25 weight oils.   Wink

Actually, when new, some of the engines probably did have as tight of clearances as today's engines.  It's just that some also had looser clearances than today's engines as machining tolerances were not as well controlled back then.


Mark good point on the tolerances.   The modern motors running 0w20 oil will start to use alot of oil as they get older I have been told. Guess that 0 weight that flows like water is hard to keep in an older engine.   But I think they mostly care about the first 100 miles when they design cars now. Beyond that I think they want them to be traded in anyway. These old tractors where built to last.
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From the old old school.  
That is when we sold them new in the 30's to the 60's.  
In the engine we used sae 30 non detergent oil.  At that time we did not have detergent oils available.  In fact, when we had customers who bought used tractors they started using the most modern detergent oil available.  Worked too good since it cleaned out all the gunk that was keeping the engine from burning oil and leaking.  
We would go out with five gallons of our sae 30 oil and change the oil.  It worked and the owner got quite a bit more life out of the unit before a major overhaul.  
In the hydraulic we used sae 20 NON DETERGENT oil - 10 NON DETERGENT in really cold weather.   Some of our customers used detergent oil and they ended up with a case full of foam.  
That was how it was in my olden days.
Now I am delighted to hear the excellent results from the newer oils in both the engine and hydraulics.   

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Rotella 15-40 from Wally World as the cheapest place I have found. Filters on gas D-Series changed at 100 hours with NAPA Gold or WIX equivalent.
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a note on oil - Al Gore and is minions have impacted oil.  The newest oil for the tier IV is not a "premium oil" . Our resident engineer did some research - the IV diesel oil has had a lot of ingredients that "pollute "  when consumed, removed.  They charge us more for less. The latest oil is fine I am sure, but is developed not for lubrication , but to pollute less when "used" by the engine.   Also automotive oil several years ago had some selenium compounds removed as all cars use roller tappets.  This automotive oil will wear out flat tappet lawn mower and tractor engines.  Use appropriate Briggs, Kohler oil in mowers or diesel oil.  Use the same oil  in gas tractors as you use in the diesel.
 
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Hard as it is to believe, but WalMart is the third ranked oil in standard oils. So go figure.
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Thanks everyone for making my point to my son, I have been running Rotella 15-40 for years in all my tractors, gas or diesel and he was trying to tell me it was to thick for the gas tractors. Thanks again
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Tim that would all depend on how tight the motor is. If you rebuild the motor and everything was measured and right at spec it would be alot different then a motor which has who know how many hours on it over 60 years.
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