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CTuckerNWIL 
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 6:19am |
This guy KNOWS how to tie em down. Just maybe forgot the safety chains on the hitch. 
Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 01 May 2019 at 6:20am
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 6:21am |
Best comment on Facebook; he sure STUCK the landing 
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 6:21am |
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Wow, did you see that or is it a repost?
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 6:58am |
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That’s the way to do. I seen a guy last week that had a car just rolling back and forth on the trailer. He only had 2 straps pulling the same direction that were loose, Very scary!
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 8:13am |
I'd be angry with Kubota, the hood latch failed ;)
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 9:12am |
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Instead of an improperly secured load it is an improperly secured trailer.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 9:37am |
...or chain.
Edited by HoughMade - 01 May 2019 at 9:38am
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 9:52am |
I would bet the tail wagged the dog. The safety chains on a trailer are meant to cradle the hitch should it hop off the ball, not keep the 2 halves together when the trailer starts whipping like mad. That said, none of us know what failed as I haven't seen an official post stating why.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 10:16am |
There doesn't seem to be wheels/tires on this side of the Trailer. One looks like its laying in the median. Maybe he lost a wheel or wheel studs? The load stayed right where it was supposed to stay though.....
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 10:18am |
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Now that is something that I have never seen before!
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 11:48am |
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Scary! That truck is exactly like mine! And I have a trailer like that hooked behind it right now. Better say some prayers......
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 12:08pm |
I just read what happened in a Facebook post. Tail wagged dog, truck rolled 3 or 4 times into the ditch. They don't know how or why the tail started to wag. AaronSEIA
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 12:12pm |
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When I secure a load this is how I imagine it will happen . Overkill should be applied when lives are at stake .
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 12:46pm |
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Not enough tongue wight, I have had a trailer or too that felt loose. Nott fun. The loader bucket should have been on top of the rack and tractor forward on trailer. Hope he recovers ok.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 2:22pm |
 Leon B MO wrote:
Not enough tongue wight, I have had a trailer or too that felt loose. Nott fun. The loader bucket should have been on top of the rack and tractor forward on trailer. Hope he recovers ok.
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Or it should have been backed on the trailer.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 2:48pm |
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I agree - not enough tongue weight, and it appears to be some piece of equipment on the rear of the tractor.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 2:57pm |
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Know two fellas will NOT hang safety chains, told them they had better be broken if trailer comes loose as their insurance is liable where they may deny coverage, one decided to start using them, the other refuses. I have safety chain on EVERY trailer I own, use them religiously, trailered the 180 with loader with a 3008 Bush Hog on it many times, knew it would explode chains in a roll over but had it lashed tight!!
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 3:18pm |
There's no excuse for not using safety chains. That's just being stupid!! PERIOD. Around here, the law enforcement always checks Trailers for safety chains, breakaway switches etc. No reason in Hell not to have ALL the safety equipment while towing and have whatever your towing tied down correctly. Could save your life as well as other innocent lives while rollin' down the road at the high speeds people travel. Steve@B&B
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 5:56pm |
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Wag the tail is what happened. It should have been backed on with enough tongue weight to make it pull safely.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 8:35pm |
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Looks like had the load as far forward as he could get without backing it on. Wonder what really happened and the cause.
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 8:50pm |
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I would’ve like to have seen this go down in person.....at a good distance of course🧐
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Posted: 01 May 2019 at 9:29pm |
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APPEARS THE TRAILER IS TO LIGHT DUTY FOR THAT HAUL, AND I'LL BET SPEED HAD ALOT TO DO WITH IT!
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Posted: 02 May 2019 at 4:38am |
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I came up behind a pickup pulling a disc on its own wheels down the interstate. Not on a trailer but on its own wheels. Sure enough it started to wag so bad that it was jerking the trucks rear end several feet one way then the other way and making skid marks on the asphalt as it did it. Dirt was flying off the disk and all over the road but he was able to slow down and got it under control but as I passed him all you could see was big wide eyes on the guys in the front seat of that truck.
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Posted: 02 May 2019 at 6:32am |
I've never hauled a tractor with a loader..... I don't think, but if that tractor didn't have a loader the way I'd haul it on my trailer is to have the tractor positioned so the center of the tractor rear axle is just a few inches ahead of the center of the trailer rear axle. That had always worked well for me.
With a loader I'd be in favor of backing it on if the tongue weight doesn't get to be too great. It appears to me that in this case the tongue weight would be a factor if backed on but I don't know what he was pulling this load with or what was on the back of that tractor. If possible, I would have set the bucket further forward onto the trailer hitch. And I do agree, that trailer LOOKS entirely too light. Looks more like a lawn mower size trailer.
My final verdict is that the trailer was too small (short) and too light to comfortably haul that tractor with a loader.
Edited by Lonn - 02 May 2019 at 6:33am
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 6:43am |
He did use safety chains. They were still attached to the truck. Something catastrophic happened, the tail wagged the dog, and the truck rolled 4 times.
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 7:48am |
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Guessing over weight for trailer and too much speed which will shear the lugs on the hubs. Was with a buddy that did the same thing without the roll over. A scary ride and I don't think he learned a thing about speed and overloading a trailer.
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:09am |
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Looks like he did a good job. Regardless of what happened, if the trailer comes unhooked from the truck, whatever is on the trailer is supposed to stay on the trailer.
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 8:11am |
My wife last night showed me that picture on the Illinois State Police page for the district it was in. It said something like if you want to know how to tie down a load, talk to this guy. If you want to know how to hook up a trailer, talk to someone else. 
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 6:16pm |
What I saw said a wheel came off the trailer first, must be true, I read it on the internet.
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Posted: 03 May 2019 at 6:38pm |
Lonn wrote:
Guessing over weight for trailer and too much speed which will shear the lugs on the hubs. Was with a buddy that did the same thing without the roll over. A scary ride and I don't think he learned a thing about speed and overloading a trailer.
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Looking back to the photo have to agree, tractor rear axle three feet behind rear trailer axle, TOO short and TOO light a setup, should have backed on. I would suspect the wheel came off from side load swinging sheared the lugs.
Edited by DMiller - 03 May 2019 at 6:39pm
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