Johndeere easychange........ we're getting lazy

Now that's a load of crap. That's not an oil change doesn't matter how you look at it. Seems to me it would make more sense for the dealer to teach people to change oil. Would help the machine and would probably help the relationship with the customer

And don't forget oil is like kryptonite to some people

No thanks.  I'll stick with my 1997 JD 325.  We'll see how many "easy oil change" tractors are still going strong in 20 years.

Edited by HoughMade - 11 Apr 2018 at 9:43am

I just read an article that says that it changes .8 quarts which is about 40% of the engine oil and the rest of the oil is "refreshed" with the new oil.  Um....yeah.

Edited by HoughMade - 11 Apr 2018 at 10:16am

It's better than nothing. I see a number of newer lawn mowers on CL and at auctions with bad motors that all seem to be related to oil. Johnny Homeowner will blame John Deere when the motor locks up, not his lack maintenance or failure to follow owner manual guidelines. So to get Mr. Homeowner to do what he's supposed to do, you have to make it as simple and easy as possible. 

I'll stick with my Conquest. That's a great mower with full suspension and all. Cost a pretty penny though.

What a joke. But...like was stated, most of the city folk don't know how to do it, don't have the tools, or (if they're like women) just assume all they need to do is drive it, and it will go forever. 

CrestonM wrote: or (if they're like women) just assume all they need to do is drive it, and it will go forever.

My sister exactly

What eyesinscheiss forgets to mention, is that now we gots even more captive parts to sell you.  Also they don't care if you burn up your engine, we can sell you the captive part or a new mower, just pay every month, like the rent...

You have to remember, that John Deere is selling this to a specific market segment, and this is what that market segment wants. As a wise man once told me, "The customer isn't always right, but he's still the customer". This may not be the way you and I want to do it, but I don't think we are the market segment they had in mind. 

I do agree that it’s a lot better than nothing, but like was said, I couldn’t justify getting something like that. I like tinkering with maintenance, and compared to the big tractors, combine, and bulldozer, a lawn tractor is fun to maintain. I have around 18 lawn and garden tractors, my newest is a 1990. So I wouldn’t have much to say for the newer ones anyway. But from my experiences of fixing them up, there are many places where a little maintenance would have gone a long way, even if it wasn’t much. And as for the good old Deere’s, the old 100 series (1963-1974) were good, in my opinion. I like the single cylinder Kohler K-series engines. The 200 300 and 400 series were good also, but there was a few models that had terrible quirks.

So if they don't want to mess with oil disposal, where do they put the old filter? It has oil in it, right? Just toss it?