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AC WC cam shaft bearings

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    Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 6:43pm
I am rebuilding a 201 cd engine for my WC and it seems to me that the camshaft bearings or bushings are a little sloppy, I don't have the head on the block, I went to put the cam in and saw that the bushings were worn and with the cam in I can feel a little slop in the cam front end, I think I should replace these cam bearings, what do you think? I have read some things that make this slop not too critical. Do I need to make allowance for the wear on the cam by getting the bearings undersized, or can I buy them in different diameters?

How do I go about removing these original bearings? installation seems pretty straight forward being sure to line up oil holes


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New cam bearings are very critical to having good oil pressure on these engines. There are different sizes but the journals on the cam never seem to wear much.
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I agree that the cam bearings should be replaced in every overhaul. You can rent a cam bearing driver. I have a homemade on that I use. Be sure to align the holes in the bearing with the oil galley.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LeonR2013 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 8:27pm
Mic. the camshaft to make sure of a proper fit. A service book will tell you what they should measure.
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You are already in there and you can see they are worn.  They do not cost much either, pretty much a no brainer to me.  They do NOT get better with time.
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I guess the question I need to ask is I see AGCO says that the bearings are a number xxxxxx and that's the original bearing but they have been replaced with #xxxxxa, which is .025 undersized , this I figure is for wear on the camshaft journals. Now the places I want to buy them from tell me that they are selling bearings that are aftermarket replacement for part # xxxxxx they do not say state they are part xxxxxa if you follow me if my journals are worn I have to have the .025 undersized right? I am not sure with what I'm buying
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Buy standard brgs.
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Check out this topic. First post is about installing cam bearings.
http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=118485&title=201-engine-assembly
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If you use under size use loctite and mark bearing to block so you can see if they turn while installing cam.    MACK
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I think I've messed up in my measurements ...I ordered original bearings set.

thanks for your input greatly appreciated !
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