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79fordblake 
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:07am |
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I have a friend of a friend that wants me to replace the brakes on his D14. I was wondering if anybody has a flat rate shop manual so I have an idea what to charge. Thanks.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 5:33pm |
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My book thinks 5 hours, So on an older trtactor , I'd allow for 8, and warn your Bud it might be 10 hours. Edit to add thats for both sides, and no allowance for drum r+r.
Edited by Gary in da UP - 13 Nov 2010 at 5:35pm
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 7:50pm |
Maybe add an hour or two to replace the axle seals...while it's apart ???
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79fordblake
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Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:25pm |
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Yeah I will recommend to him to get oil seals for me to put in. He bought a manual for me to go by. I have done read over it before hand. 8 hrs total or 8 hrs for each side? Thanks.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 6:31am |
I'd say a lazy day (8-9 hours total) for the whole job providing you've got all the tools,parts,cranes,blocks,etc.
If you want , you can come up here and 'practice' on my '57 D-14.Then do the '59 to better your time !!.LOL....
When you leave you'll be an expert at it.
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Jack(Ky)
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 6:50am |
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You need to check the diameter of the drums. When they get too big on the inside then the radius doesn't match the raduis of the brake shoes and then you only have a little spot contacting when you engage the brakes. A&I has the new drums and they aren't that expensive. If need be I can get you a price and drop ship to you if needed.JP
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GBACBFan
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:57am |
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If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not.
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Gary in da UP
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:11am |
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If you are servicing the drums add 2hr, 15 min, per side.
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79fordblake
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:26am |
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Thanks guys. He said he will treat me right on the price of the labor. I wasn't going to charge anything but he said he wasn't having that. I have the tools to do everything. This tractor has not had the brakes serviced in awhile. He said it hasn't had brakes for years.
So I'm sure it probably needs to have oil seals replaced and I will have to check the drums while it is apart. So for now I guess I have to kinda give an estimate on the price. I guess I might as well figure in the extra costs b/c I do know that he wants his tractor done right. We will have to discuss it together.
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79fordblake
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:28am |
 GBACBFan wrote:
If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not. |
Lol that is true but I don't drink. He is going to park the tractor in his shop with concrete floor, heat, and radio though, lol.
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Jamie (KY)
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Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:38am |
79fordblake wrote:
GBACBFan wrote:
If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not. |
Lol that is true but I don't drink. He is going to park the tractor in his shop with concrete floor, heat, and radio though, lol.
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Using his shop... that is great. He can clean up the mess. LOL
A buddy of mine helped me do mine. He said that there was enough room to actually double up on the axle seals. As cheap as they were, I wish we'd done that. It wasn't very long before the seals started bleeding through just enough to get on the new brake linings. It still stops, but you really have to put some pressure on the pedals.
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