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Topic: Flat Rate Charges(D14 Brakes)?
Posted By: 79fordblake
Subject: Flat Rate Charges(D14 Brakes)?
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:07am
I have a friend of a friend that wants me to replace the brakes on his D14. I was wondering if anybody has a flat rate shop manual so I have an idea what to charge. Thanks.



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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 5:33pm
 My book thinks 5 hours, So on an older trtactor , I'd allow for 8, and warn your Bud it might be 10 hours.  Edit to add thats for both sides, and no allowance for drum r+r.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 7:50pm
Maybe add an hour or two to replace the axle seals...while it's apart ???


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Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2010 at 11:25pm
Yeah I will recommend to him to get oil seals for me to put in. He bought a manual for me to go by. I have done read over it before hand. 8 hrs total or 8 hrs for each side? Thanks.


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 6:31am
I'd say  a lazy day (8-9 hours total) for the whole job providing you've got all the tools,parts,cranes,blocks,etc.
 
If you want , you can come up here and 'practice' on my '57 D-14.Then do the '59 to better your time !!.LOL....
 
When you leave you'll be an expert at it.
 
Jay


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Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water


Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 6:50am
You need to check the diameter of the drums. When they get too big on the inside then the radius doesn't match the raduis of the brake shoes and then you only have a little spot contacting when you engage the brakes. A&I has the new drums and they aren't that expensive. If need be I can get you a price and drop ship to you if needed.JP 


Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 7:57am
If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not.

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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 8:11am
If you are servicing the drums add 2hr, 15 min, per side.


Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:26am
Thanks guys. He said he will treat me right on the price of the labor. I wasn't going to charge anything but he said he wasn't having that. I have the tools to do everything. This tractor has not had the brakes serviced in awhile. He said it hasn't had brakes for years.

So I'm sure it probably needs to have oil seals replaced and I will have to check the drums while it is apart. So for now I guess I have to kinda give an estimate on the price. I guess I might as well figure in the extra costs b/c I do know that he wants his tractor done right. We will have to discuss it together.


Posted By: 79fordblake
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:28am
Originally posted by GBACBFan GBACBFan wrote:

If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not.


Lol that is true but I don't drink. He is going to park the tractor in his shop with concrete floor, heat, and radio though, lol.


Posted By: Jamie (KY)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 9:38am
Originally posted by 79fordblake 79fordblake wrote:

Originally posted by GBACBFan GBACBFan wrote:

If he's a friend, the rate will vary depending on if he has cold beer in the fridge when you're done or not.


Lol that is true but I don't drink. He is going to park the tractor in his shop with concrete floor, heat, and radio though, lol.
Using his shop... that is great. He can clean up the mess. LOL
A buddy of mine helped me do mine. He said that there was enough room to actually double up on the axle seals. As cheap as they were, I wish we'd done that. It wasn't very long before the seals started bleeding through just enough to get on the new brake linings. It still stops, but you really have to put some pressure on the pedals.


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