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For some reason I cant get to your pictures???
Sounds like you have done a lot to get this pulling better each year. Have family fun with it!
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Yah me to keep pictures coming and keep the pit crew (the boys) around to your lucky to have them involved. Good luck
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How's everyone doing. Back at it this winter.

Stripping more weight.

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Praying for spring but not even ready for it. We have been lucky here in Michigan winter has been gentle. got wheels to build and tires to cut plenty to do. Hope everyone else is surviving.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote UglyAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Apr 2019 at 7:34pm
Made a lot of progress this winter. We built a lightweight center section (replaced the hand clutch housing).

Swapped out the steering shaft.

Widened a set of 28" wheels and built an adjustable Hitch.
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I cant see your pictures anymore.
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD10W,HD16

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, R62, R72 HD15
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote UglyAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 11:14am
I cant either. I wish this forum was easier to post pics on.
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This is a very interesting thread! I can't see them either but, I would love to see the pictures, also.

I have a question for those that know the rules well. How is the tire area calculated. I have a set of 18.4 x 26 tires that I want to put on my D17, for next year.
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this is what natpa uses


0-4500# class 200 sq. in.
4501-6500# class 229 sq. in.
6501-9500# class 300 sq. in.

11.2 x 38 – 120 sq. in. 12.4 x 38 – 140 sq. in. 13.6 x 38 – 168 sq. in. 
11.2 x 36 – 115 sq. in. 12.4 x 36 – 135 sq. in. 14.9 x 28 – 170 sq. in. 
18. 4 x 28 – 126 sq. in. 13.6 x 28 – 145 sq. in. 13.6 x 24 – 130 sq. in. 
14.9 x 26 – 144 sq. in. 14.9 x 38 – 200 sq. in. 18.4 x 34 – 284 sq. in. 
18.4 x 38 – 300 sq. in. 15.5 x 38 – 189 sq. in. 16.9 x 38 – 252 sq. in.
 16.9 x 34 – 229 sq. in. 18.4 x 28 – 250 sq. in.


after some searching 18.4 x 26 bias tire is listed at 242 sq. in. by firestone

so if your pull is using natpa rules  your D17 could only pull @ 6501+  lbs!!!!  not where you want to be

 


Edited by CAL(KS) - 05 Jun 2019 at 12:24pm
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD10W,HD16

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, R62, R72 HD15
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Thank you, very much, Cal. I agree that puts me out any class that I want to pull in.

Are there typo's in that chart? It's lists 18. x 28 at 126 Sq In and 15.5 x 38 at 189 Sq In. Also, i don't see 16.9 x 28 listed. That's what I have now.

Do you have a link to the Firestone chart?


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could be a typo  i copied and pasted from natpa site. 

found the 18.4 x 26 here.  you have to go down to bias tire pg 31
it lists others as well.  15.5 x38 shows 189 here

Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD10W,HD16

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, R62, R72 HD15
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Thank you again, I saved it and will look it over, later
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14.9 28 are 183 that’s as big as you can legally go with 28 18.4-26 are 242 15.5 38 are 200 that’s why you see everybody using them
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I did some looking around today and found the 16.9 x 24, listed at 196. Are they used much?

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track conditions play a role and opinions will vary.  I think you will find a majority of pullers will run a taller narrow tire as opposed to a short fat tire.  i have been told that a short fat tire will "float" and spin sooner than a tall and narrow one, but whether there are facts to back this up who knows?  perhaps there is some science to explain the advantages to the footprint being parallel or perpendicular to the travel of the tractor.  lots of factors in the winning equation.  i havnt done enough pulling to really have an opinion other than i sized my tires to provide the largest footprint i can run and allow me to keep the engine near its rated speed for the class mph.

Edited by CAL(KS) - 06 Jun 2019 at 7:48am
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD10W,HD16

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, R62, R72 HD15
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I've done some research in the Firestone and Goodyear catalogs and came up with these number for Sq In.

Some are more and some are less than the NATPA numbers. I can only assume that the NATPA number are the deciding numbers, for what your allowed, for tire size.

In that case a larger foot print listed for g & f would be advantageous.

The 15.5 x 38, 175, is Goodyear and the 18.4 x 34, 291, is Firestone.




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