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    Posted: 30 Nov 2011 at 4:10pm
Looking to get a new carburetor for a 1957 D17, S/N  10336.
 
Can anyone tell me the model # of the Zenith carburetor I would put on this tractor?  The number I can see on the brass stamp on top of the Carb is 12217.
 
Does it take the same carb as a WD45?
 
 
ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21
MINNEAPOLIS MOLINE: U, U, U(NF), GB
JOHN DEERE: L
FORD: 871 Select-O-Speed
CASE: 600 Combine
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I've never seen a Zenith carb on a D-17, although I understand some came equipped with the Zenith Model 267 JB carburetor. Some WD-45s used a Zenith 267-8.
In any event, it appears that that number on the brass tag can be useful in obtaining the correct carb. 
In my experience most WD-45s and D-17s appear to have been equipped with the Marvel-Schebler carburetors.
According to my A-C manual, some D-17s used the common Marvel-Schebler TSX-464 carb that was used on so many WD-45s, although they usually came with Marvel-Schebler  TSX-561, TSX-773 or (after Ser. #42001) TSX-871 carburetors. All of these carbs are listed in my parts manual as having also been used on the WD-45s.
You may have better luck finding one of the Marvel-Schebler carbs than a Zenith.
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           Are D17 has a Zenith on it since we had it but I can,t tell you which one because there is no tag. It is also a 1957 serial no. 2829.
 
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i also have a zenith on my 57 d-17 s/n 3594. i too cant make out number on the brass tag.
6060 s\n 5016

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AND...my 1957 D17,serial #4128 also has the Zenith carb. on it and it came from the factory that way.  I've also seen the Zeniths on a lot of D17's...not uncommon at all.  Rick
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All series I D17s i.e. prior to S/n 24001 used the Zenith Carburetor Model 267 J8
Still in use:
HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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We Have new zenith carburetors #11588 for WD45 and D17
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Well Rick, Maybe we should take a survey as to who's D17s have Zenith's vs Marvel-Scheblers? Uncommon, maybe not, common, maybe not either!
I didn't interpret the parts book as Orange Blood did; that ALL D-17s prior to Ser. #24001 were equipped with Zenith carbs. He may be correct!
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So, would a Zenith #11588 be a suitable replacement carburetor for my D17?
ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21
MINNEAPOLIS MOLINE: U, U, U(NF), GB
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Here is a application link for Zenith Carburetors http://www.autotestsys.com/Zenith.htm
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Zenith Repl Carb # 14991
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Brian...I don't care if they are common or uncommon really,I was just pointing out that I have a D17 with a Zenith carb. on it and that I've seen many of them like that and I have. I'm also sure that all of them didn't come here to central Mo. either! I think Clay pretty well cleared that up anyway with the info he supplied to the forum. Wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers and I hope you didn't take it that way.  Rick
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Guys I am not trying to ruffle feathers either.  I simply posted information that comes right from Allis Chalmers documentation.  I do realize now, that I posted in an arogant fashion, posting answers without discussion or acknowleging others points.  I can't stand it when others do this, and I apologize, I am not a know it all, nor do I want to apear as such.
 
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HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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I appologize too!
I shouldn't have been so "sharp" with my post!
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I did not see anything that should ruffle anyone's feathers. 
(Perhaps the red print is a bit difficult to view compared to the black print.)
In my opinion, your comments were not political, confrontational or demeaning. 
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Thanks a bunch for that info on the carb!
ALLIS: B, WC, G, G, D10, D12, D14, D14(NF), D15, D17, D17(NF), D19, D21, D21
MINNEAPOLIS MOLINE: U, U, U(NF), GB
JOHN DEERE: L
FORD: 871 Select-O-Speed
CASE: 600 Combine
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