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79fordblake ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: West Kentucky Points: 829 |
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The neighbors 60' D17 needs brakes and I found some more bad news today when I removed the brake covers......drum is trashed on one side. So final drive needs to be removed.
I know it is normal to have trouble getting the pins out of the brakes and that it might have to be drilled and tapped to get it out. What pullers do you guys use? I don't have one that will work in this situation. Thanks |
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Orange Blood ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Location: ColoradoSprings Points: 4053 |
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What I have done, if I plan on putting a new pin in, is soak everything I can from the brake rod hole, let it sit a few days, then lightly put a pipe wrench on the little bit that sticks out, most times that will get it, if not, most on here I have heard weld something on so there is more meat to pull from.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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Do you have access to a welder? I welded a 3/8 bolt to the pins on mine, slipped a deep well socket over the bolt, and was able to draw the pins right out. I carefully cut the weld around the head of the pins and you would never know I was there.
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dualquads ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2010 Location: Ill Annoy Points: 51 |
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I used a Dremel tool to grind flat spots on opposite sides of the pin and then used a crescent wrench to turn the pin and loosen it. Replaced pins with new at re-assembly.
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Burgie ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Scottsburg, IN Points: 1192 |
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Sometimes nothing works!! That is when you use the smoke wrench and cut them out.
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79fordblake ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: West Kentucky Points: 829 |
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Somebody was shining down on me today. I removed the fasteners that keep the pins in place. Took a pair of vice grips and with no effort at all the pins slid right out on both sides. :)
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79fordblake ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Location: West Kentucky Points: 829 |
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I see in the manual that it says it can be easier and faster to break the drum than it is to pull it off the shaft. The drum on one side is toast...big grooves from being metal to metal. What should I do to break it? Wear some eye protection and slap it with a sledge?
I'm not removing the final drive from the other side....the other drum is in great shape. Waiting on all the parts to come right now. |
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Bob D. (La) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529 |
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Don't break it till you know you have a good replacement. LOL
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When you find yourself in a hole,PUT DOWN THE SHOVEL!!!
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Gatz in NE ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lincoln, NE Points: 1053 |
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Here's what we used to do to get the drum off after removing the final from tractor.
Lay the final down on floor and support the drum with some hardwood blocks. Carefully break the drum flanges off with a heavy hammer (like a 2#). Then break the web off as close to the hub as practical; all the while supporting the drum (& eventually what's left of it) by the hardwood blocks. Drill a hole in the hub right over, and to the key. (a 5/16 or 11/32" will do, depending on what you might have available for a tapered punch) approx 3/4" from the edge of the longest part of the hub. What you want to do is get the hub to crack by forcing the tapered punch into the hole where the keyway is. Once it is cracked, it comes off easily.
Even a centerpunch would work as long as it's got some taper to it and you size the drilled hole accordingly.
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To install a new drum, make sure the snap-ring is still in place.
Use a rosebud to heat the drum up evenly (you don't want to crack the new one !)
Don't overheat. It should be hot enough to freely slide on the axle (this will require welding gloves to handle) Make sure the drum goes on the right direction (for the snap ring)
The tricky part is 3-fold..... getting it to slide on the axle shaft - aligned with the key - and pushed up against the snap ring.
Have a piece of steel tubing of sufficient length that will fit over the axle and a sledge at the ready to drive the drum "home"... it's very possible for the drum to hang up on the axle before it gets to the snap ring.
Yes, wear eye protection !
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JimD ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Mounds, OK Points: 2116 |
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I hammer off what's left of the contact surface. Then I use a cut off wheel on an angle grinder to cut deep notches into the webbing opposite of each other. Then I put a cold chisel right down one and give it a smack. Splits them in half (usually :)
JimD
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