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changing f2 from wheat to corn

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    Posted: 30 Aug 2020 at 11:52am
what needs to be done to the machine
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if you have the corn chaffer top sieve change it out with the small grains chaffer 
open concave cleance 5/8 -3/4 inch depending on cob size change to corn pulley 20 in dia slow down cylinder speed 250 350 rpm the cob should be rolled out in whole or in half not all cracked up retract fingers in straw chopper 
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Feeder beater must be in the UP position!!  Change pulley and belt on the cylinder to 16.5 inch or 20 inch diameters. THIS IS A MUST!! Cylinder speed from 400 to 500 RPM.    Raise cylinder to approx. 3/4" clearance.   Change to an 1 5/8" corn chaffer.   Open the lower sieve quite wide to start. Set fan control to 5 or more.  Metal curtain above the raddle remove if it is still in there. Chopper needs to be slowed down or removed.
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sounds like we need to look for a differant seive i know this machine has never seen corn but i know that it has done soy beans
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A different chaffer, not sieve. What about the cylinder pulley/belt ??? That is absolutely a requirement.
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Operator manual would do you wonders. Answers all your questions.
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Filler bars on the cylinder? I used them in corn and removed for grain on k2
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Filler bars have tendency to crack more corn. Would only use in corn you cant get off the cob. Have seen some like that over the years even at 18%.
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Filler bars also lower the machine capacity
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have all the parts to change over ,chaffer , pulley , belt , filler bars , black corn heads in a430 , a436 , a438 thanks Steve
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ran k k2 and f2 never used filler bars 

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Originally posted by allisrutledge allisrutledge wrote:

Filler bars on the cylinder? I used them in corn and removed for grain on k2
 
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Originally posted by SteveM C/IL SteveM C/IL wrote:

Operator manual would do you wonders. Answers all your questions.
ALL OF HIS QUESTIONS ????? I think NOT !!! An OM is JUST like a blueprint, it gets you "close" to the end product but ALWAYS needs "tweaked" WinkWink
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Filler bars were only intended to be used for WET corn, say anything above 20 or 22%. It made shelling more complete and created less grain damage because the cylinder speed could be set slower and still do a good job of shelling. It also helped promote more whole cobs, which increases the separation/cleaning shoe capacity. It helped some on sidehills by keeping the crop material  spread more across the full width of the cylinder. It was NOT ever intended to be left on the cylinder for doing soybeans or any other crop. Only wet or harder shelling corn.
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