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Tracy Jones
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Topic: Changes to D-14 in 1959 and after?Posted: 10 May 2017 at 12:42am |
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Wondering if a knowledgeable member could describe the changes made to the D-14 in and after 1959? Thanks
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DiyDave
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 5:03am |
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Grille was changed to match the new D-10/12 tractor line...
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dt1050
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 5:19am |
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I think they changed the crank shaft pulley. If I 'm right (rarely) some time in late 59 they started to put a pulley with holes in it for running a hydro pump. I have a 1960 So I'm interested to know what changes were made also. I also think that's when they started making them 12 volt negative ground.
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 5:56am |
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went to 12 volt...ring gear and starter have different # of teeth(don't ask HOW I KNOW that one....) but starters WITH a band near the end are 6 volt, NO band = 12 volt.
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 6:06am |
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Steering wheels
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 6:30am |
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Did the drawbar change some? Like the D17 changed
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 7:04am |
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1. steering wheel
2. steering wheel shaft 3. 12 volt system 4. longer pto lever 5. wider draw bar bale 6. mesh grill vs black bar grill 7. headlight shape 8. 93 teeth ring gear vs 116 teeth ring gear 9. D14 decals 10. Bolts vs studs on adjustable front end 11. Bigger tail lights, not the bullets 12. Four blade vs five blade fan 13. Front crank pulley, no longer having the crank provision 14. New style key starter vs push button |
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DSeries4
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 7:05pm |
Aside from my updates, very accurate. |
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 7:47pm |
Yeah learned that one myself.......
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 11:06pm |
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Thanks Everyone!
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Posted: 10 May 2017 at 11:43pm |
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Next question if anyone knows, was a there an operating instructions and parts illustrations manual that showed these changes. Can't find any manuals that go beyond Form TM-137C. Seems like there would be a newer manual showing at least some of the updates?
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Posted: 11 May 2017 at 7:01pm |
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No, because there were no major changes to the tractor. These are all minor things that did not require a different manual..
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Posted: 11 May 2017 at 8:12pm |
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I'm sure there was an operators manual with the Black Bar grill D-14 on the cover. Will check tomorrow.
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Posted: 11 May 2017 at 9:23pm |
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If I am understanding right they made a factory 12 volt D14? I still have nightmares about stalling a d14 and hearing that six volt starter try unsuccessfully to start the engine. Nothing was worse than telling Dad I stalled it and needed a pull. Once in a while with a few prayers it would start when hot but most time not. The series II D15 on the other hand never failed me at anything. Tom
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 3:35am |
yes, I didn't know until I bought mine (1960). I had assumed it was converted to 12v, but found out the changed them over I think I was told lat 1959? I was going by tractordata, it also said they didn't come with powersteering, but yep they did. love them 6volts, better start in the first couple rounds or your done...lol |
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 4:59am |
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Found this on ebay. Can't read the form number, but since I have an original white covered manual that has publication code 257969 and has the Label on the right edge reading: (Prior to Serial Number 19001), I'm thinking there was a such a manual published.
![]() I'll be on the search for it. My Reproduction business goes online next month. So far I have the following ready, a special edition WD operator and parts illustrations manual FORM TM-9 E, a WD-45 operator and parts illustration manual FORM TM-85 D, a D-14 operator and parts illustrations manual combining all of the forms upto TM-137 C, dealers repair parts manual for wd and wd45 tractors dated 1955 and original dealers repair parts catalog for the D14 dated 1961. I also have a complete pdf version of the 2017 AGCO parts catalog (current parts numbers included) for each that will go along with the reproduction parts catalogs for free. 3/4 done with the WD and WD45, WD45 Diesel and D14 Service Manual. No funds at the moment, but I'll be searching for that late model d14 manual. Edited by Tracy Jones - 12 May 2017 at 5:01am |
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 8:59am |
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I have the original white Operators manual. Form TM-235
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 9:06am |
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is that the Late model d14 manual?
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 9:30am |
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Late D-14 Serial 19,000 and up. Form # above.
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Posted: 12 May 2017 at 9:35pm |
Yes, one of the changes mentioned in this post - Over serial number 19001. My 58 is volt. My 59 is 12 volt. Both unmolested originals. |
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Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 12:50pm |
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Good day - I have been following your posts about changes to 1959, 1960 D-14 tractors. I am looking for a D-14, either year, either fully restored or in good shape that I could have it restored. I have been wondering about a number of things for those 2 years. Was the D-14 decal, near the gas tank, in that location for both years? Was the grill black, with horizontal bars across it? Were both those years essentially the same? I am not sure from the posts if both years were 6 or 12 volt?
I appreciate any help you might provide. Thank you Todd
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Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 6:42pm |
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D-14 12 volt started at tractor serial 19001, engine serial 149-19070 Gary |
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Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 6:51pm |
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Original early D-14 Operators and Parts Illustration is Orange for Form TM-137C. Gary http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ALLIS-CHALMERS-D14-OPERATING-OPERATORS-INSTRUCTIONS-OWNERS-MANUAL-PARTS-ILL-/390573368861?hash=item5aeffca61d:g:t~4AAOxyJs5RdZLI |
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Thank you so much - very helpful. Would anyone happen to know of fully restored D-14 tractors? 1959 or 1960? I have seen some beautiful tractors that others have restored. I'd love to find one.
Todd
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Todd Post a 'Wanted' Ad in the Classifieds section of this Forum: Start by clicking on Classifieds section, then 'New Topic' Gary |
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