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    Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 2:22pm
I bought a B with an adjustable wide front-end with the intent of using it to convert my CA from tricycle to wide.  However, once I got the B home I realized I jumped on buying the B before doing my home work; the forward attachment and steering are different between the CA and the B.

This leads to obvious questions:
Can the forward attachment bracket and other unique parts for a CA wide-front end be found?
Is the basic geometry of an adjustable B wide front-end close enough to be fitted to a CA?

Thanks for any help.
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unbolt the front bolster from each tractor at the front of the motor. swap steering gears .and front ends. if you put the narrow front on the B you will have a narrow  B
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Maybe I am being stupid, but I thought B's only had the wisshbone wide front, not an adj. wide front. Am I mistaken?
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Originally posted by JarrodACFan JarrodACFan wrote:

Maybe I am being stupid, but I thought B's only had the wisshbone wide front, not an adj. wide front. Am I mistaken?

They were available with an adjustable wishbone and later and adjustable front similar to  the CA's.


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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:



Originally posted by JarrodACFan JarrodACFan wrote:

Maybe I am being stupid, but I thought B's only had the wisshbone wide front, not an adj. wide front. Am I mistaken?

They were available with an adjustable wishbone and later and adjustable front similar to  the CA's.



Ok, that makes sense, I just thought that B's with a adj. wide fronts were robbed off a CA at one point or another.
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I'm not sure about this. But I think the CA narrowed all the way will still be wider than the B front end. That could essentially make the CA useless.
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Adjustable B WFE adjust from 40 inches to 65 inches.
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Unless you change the steering box below the gas tank. it will steer backwards. the gears are cut backwards. at its widest seting it will be just wide enough for a narrow setting on the CA rear. my sugestion is don't do it. you will wind up with a cobbled tractor. either find a C OR CA wide front, or keep it as a narrow front. Buy the way I have both a WF CA and NF C. I can't think of any good reason the switch one over. 
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They don't steer backwards but you have to leave the CA steering arm pointing upwards. I have a C done this way with a B adjustable front. It steers better than any of my B's and turns sharper. It's at a tractor show right now but I'll get pics tomorrow and post tomorrow night. AC made a proto type called the b/c it's in Norms Book.
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