Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Crawler

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   Guys:  Am looking for a photo or literature for the Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Tractor.  
Kindly send me a PM if you can reference a location or a picture of the H3 54" track Muckland Crawler. 

Thank - You ....Orangeman

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orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1818	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Crawler Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 10:36am
	Guys: Am looking for a photo or literature for the Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Tractor. Kindly send me a PM if you can reference a location or a picture of the H3 54" track Muckland Crawler. Thank - You ....Orangeman

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Eric B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Location: British Columbi Points: 965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Aug 2015 at 11:54pm
	How did you first hear of this model?....Never heard of it before
	Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!

orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1818	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 10:07am
	Good Morning Eric: Several places the machine is referenced. One is in an Original parts book that was issued from Allis in 1971. This book reference all of the updates and versions of the H3 that could be acquired. More to come...

orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1818	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 10:56am
	Ok - back again. Promotional literature and Norms bible shows us that there were numerous adaptations of the H3. For example: 1. H3/HD3 with 963 straight blade - this were usually employed as a topsoil machine. 2. H3/HD3 with 1080, 1081 and 1090 blade - mechanical or 6 way full hydraulic. 3. H3/HD3 with 1066 front loader - material bucket or snow bucket. 4. H3/Dg3 with rear mounted Gafner and Beloit Log Loaders 5. H3/HD3 with rear mounted Backhoe 6. H3/HD3 with rear mounted Carco, Holt or AC Model 400 Winch 7. H3/HD3 Ski Slope Tractor 8. H3/HD3 Pipelayer Tractor with Midwest Sideboom 9. H3/HD3 with Backhoe or 3 point hitch or rear scarifier. 10. H3/HD3 with rear mounted drill rig. 11. H3 Electrical Version used in Ship holds to move material these were fed with electrical power and used AC electric motors. Last known to be used on the West Coast. I have heard that some of the eastern states also acquired H3 and Hd3 in groups that were equipped with drill rigs on them. These were typically used for geotechnical work and reconnaissance of soil and rock information where highways were planned to be put on new alignment. Have never seen one in the filed but was told by our sage State Highway Equipment operators that have long been retired that during the 60's the H3 drill rig machines were around. Question to the AC Crawler/Dozer guys - What other uses were these stout little crawlers used for? This is a test similar to the one that AC Mel put up on the differences between the HD5 and HD6. Let the discussion begin..... Orangeman Edited by orangeman - 08 Aug 2015 at 11:07am

Eric B Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 09 Feb 2012 Location: British Columbi Points: 965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eric B Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 11:07am
	Wow! That was some multi-use machine. Would have been fun to leave the dealer's lot with a brand new one!!
	Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41848	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 7:37am
	Wonder IF _ Just because there was a option for the machine doesn't mean they sold any . The rear cases of the HD3, HD4 don't lend them themselves to wide pads without major modifications to the cases themselves . Now my HD4 had a tool holder attachment that the AC 615 backhoe dropped into and pinned to that the hoe worked well , it used a divert-er valve to send oil to backhoe so loaded valve was not operable with hoe powered up.
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DonBC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Courtenay, BC, Points: 932	Post Options Post Reply Quote DonBC Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 11:01am
	Years ago I had an H3 loader/backhoe. I don't know if there was any different designation for the backhoe. It just seemed that it came as a unit. I did mount on a frame that made it very easy to remove and reinstall the hoe. I would just clip the hoe on whenever I needed it. There was a supply and return with male and female quick couplers that you uncoupled and connected them to the respective quick couplers on the hoe. There was no divert-er valve so the loader and hoe were both live when the hoe was on.
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Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4529	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 11:28am
	40 years ago I had a I60 tractor-loader-backhoe. I did the same thing and made the backhoe easily removable for certian jobs.
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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41848	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 6:58pm
	Large nursery near here had a HD4 set up with truck frame modified so crawler sat up with about 6' clearance under the chase - must have taken 3 sets or track to go around each side - used it in tree nursery to straddle rows for their work .
	Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."

dustinmo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Auxvasse, MO Points: 2187	Post Options Post Reply Quote dustinmo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 10:46pm
	I have the complete side layer boom and setup i took off a h3 that had the 6 way blade, one has a 1066 with 3pt, one has 1066 with winch, one has 1066 with weights and one has 1066 with backhoe,

orangeman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 1818	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangeman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Aug 2015 at 4:15am
	Great insights on the H3 variations. Was going through the AC 400 winch parts and service manual, in the manual there is a black and white photo that shows the winch and the endplates HOLT is cast into the housing. Wondering if AC had an engineering relationship with HOLT or did AC just purchase an appropriately sized winch and HOLT served as a supplier? Dustin - the sidelayer boom may have been a Midwest product. A little more about the Muckland H3 - I see in the parts book that they had a power director transmission.