Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Crawler
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Topic: Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Crawler
Posted By: orangeman
Subject: Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Crawler
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2015 at 10:36am
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Guys: Am looking for a photo or literature for the Allis Chalmers H3 Muckland Tractor. Kindly send me a PM if you can reference a location or a picture of the H3 54" track Muckland Crawler. Thank - You ....Orangeman
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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2015 at 11:54pm
How did you first hear of this model?....Never heard of it before ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 10:07am
| Good Morning Eric: Several places the machine is referenced. One is in an Original parts book that was issued from Allis in 1971. This book reference all of the updates and versions of the H3 that could be acquired. More to come... |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 10:56am
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Ok - back again. Promotional literature and Norms bible shows us that there were numerous adaptations of the H3. For example: 1. H3/HD3 with 963 straight blade - this were usually employed as a topsoil machine. 2. H3/HD3 with 1080, 1081 and 1090 blade - mechanical or 6 way full hydraulic. 3. H3/HD3 with 1066 front loader - material bucket or snow bucket. 4. H3/Dg3 with rear mounted Gafner and Beloit Log Loaders 5. H3/HD3 with rear mounted Backhoe 6. H3/HD3 with rear mounted Carco, Holt or AC Model 400 Winch 7. H3/HD3 Ski Slope Tractor 8. H3/HD3 Pipelayer Tractor with Midwest Sideboom 9. H3/HD3 with Backhoe or 3 point hitch or rear scarifier. 10. H3/HD3 with rear mounted drill rig. 11. H3 Electrical Version used in Ship holds to move material these were fed with electrical power and used AC electric motors. Last known to be used on the West Coast. I have heard that some of the eastern states also acquired H3 and Hd3 in groups that were equipped with drill rigs on them. These were typically used for geotechnical work and reconnaissance of soil and rock information where highways were planned to be put on new alignment. Have never seen one in the filed but was told by our sage State Highway Equipment operators that have long been retired that during the 60's the H3 drill rig machines were around. Question to the AC Crawler/Dozer guys - What other uses were these stout little crawlers used for? This is a test similar to the one that AC Mel put up on the differences between the HD5 and HD6. Let the discussion begin..... Orangeman
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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2015 at 11:07am
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Wow! That was some multi-use machine. Would have been fun to leave the dealer's lot with a brand new one!! ------------- Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal! |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 7:37am
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Wonder IF _ Just because there was a option for the machine doesn't mean they sold any . The rear cases of the HD3, HD4 don't lend them themselves to wide pads without major modifications to the cases themselves . Now my HD4 had a tool holder attachment that the AC 615 backhoe dropped into and pinned to that the hoe worked well , it used a divert-er valve to send oil to backhoe so loaded valve was not operable with hoe powered up. ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 11:01am
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Years ago I had an H3 loader/backhoe. I don't know if there was any different designation for the backhoe. It just seemed that it came as a unit. I did mount on a frame that made it very easy to remove and reinstall the hoe. I would just clip the hoe on whenever I needed it. There was a supply and return with male and female quick couplers that you uncoupled and connected them to the respective quick couplers on the hoe. There was no divert-er valve so the loader and hoe were both live when the hoe was on. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 11:28am
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40 years ago I had a I60 tractor-loader-backhoe. I did the same thing and made the backhoe easily removable for certian jobs. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 6:58pm
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Large nursery near here had a HD4 set up with truck frame modified so crawler sat up with about 6' clearance under the chase - must have taken 3 sets or track to go around each side - used it in tree nursery to straddle rows for their work . ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: dustinmo
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2015 at 10:46pm
| I have the complete side layer boom and setup i took off a h3 that had the 6 way blade, one has a 1066 with 3pt, one has 1066 with winch, one has 1066 with weights and one has 1066 with backhoe, |
Posted By: orangeman
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2015 at 4:15am
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Great insights on the H3 variations. Was going through the AC 400 winch parts and service manual, in the manual there is a black and white photo that shows the winch and the endplates HOLT is cast into the housing. Wondering if AC had an engineering relationship with HOLT or did AC just purchase an appropriately sized winch and HOLT served as a supplier? Dustin - the sidelayer boom may have been a Midwest product. A little more about the Muckland H3 - I see in the parts book that they had a power director transmission. |