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    Posted: 19 Sep 2022 at 7:57pm
Folks,
 So I was pulling tractors Saturday at our local fair. Fellow parked next to me ask when I was going to get a small tractor? He was setting on his old CA. He said his was for sale and I should make him a offer. I have seen the tractor many times pulling. It does a pretty good job. We discussed it and came to an agreement. I will go to review and maybe bring it home this week some time.
The owner is getting out of pulling. Guess I am getting into it?
Some details:
- Well it is a CA with a C narrow front end.
- right brake is not functioning
- hand clutch has been removed
- sterring is very loose and probably worn out
- Pretty good set of matched firestones on rear
- front tires are ok
- no charging system in place
- Moves and functions in all gears
- Has some oil leaks at front of engine
- Has custom exhaust pipe for sure!
- Rear rims are farmall lug type not AC. not rusted out.
- Rear rims are in good shape.
- He is pulling it in the 2500 lb class
- Has hydraulic pump removed
- it has a pulling hitch on the drawbar,
- Owner got third in the class that day.

So here is the plan if it comes home:
- Maybe adjust the exhaust pipe to something more conventional.
- Pull it in some light classes
- Have some fun
- let the grandson and great grandsons try it out.
- get a charging system functioning, probably 12 volt with a Denso alternator.



Owner and his tractor

Will try to keep you upto date on this new addition.
Regards,
Chris 


Edited by Sugarmaker - 19 Sep 2022 at 7:59pm
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custom exhaust... Clap   Thumbs Up
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Custom exhaust???? Kinda looks like a bad case of whiskey d!ck

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Does he have the pump and original wheels hanging around still? Not a terrible looking tractor, but definitely has a few modifications.

Is that a part of a wheel weight on the rear wheel?
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That's the front of a C tractor there
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Folks,
I am new to the CA versions for sure.
Paul, is the engine the same in a C and a CA. Owner said it was just the front end being changed from a wide front CA to the narrow front C?

Also looks like steering arm and pitman have seen way better days! But i guess I have seen worse.

Yes the custom exhaust has a bad case of the droops:)! Very functional just not very apealing to me.
Wheels I believe he said were shot and replaced with the IH lug style. I dont have much of a problem with those. Might work just dandy, and the rim portion has been widened a little so that fits in with the rest of our "Fat Bottom Girls"!

I will need to do some research on the brakes R&R. 
Probably Sandy Lake will be able to add another addition to a building!:)

BTW I broke the brake rod on our grandson's WD while pulling. Another adventure in Allis in Wonderland for sure!

Also I dont have a clue on the status of this engine? Its for sure got a good protective coating on the exterior. It does run, More to come. 

Thanks for the comments and support! I will need it!
 Regards,
Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - 20 Sep 2022 at 7:23am
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Whiskey-dick...that there .. thats funny...thendrix.
Sugermaker, that CA took 3rd that day... with a little AC know how, you and your young-uns can have a good time for years to come. 
   The CA is one of my favorites.
Best of luck
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Leon, Folks,
 Thanks. Will make a run at this tommorow if the weather is right. My friend Jim is dealing on a tractor for pulling also. Must be something in the water!?
Regards,
 Chris
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Folks,
 The CA is home and have done a few mods on a couple things. You know the new toy syndrome!:)
Loaded up with Jack the previous owner:


In the shop for review. Oli pressure is good. oil looks clean, leaks just like all ther othe Allis tractors too!:

He told me it steers way farther one way that the other. Humm. The drag link had been cut and shortened. I found that to be more centered it needed to be extended about 4 inches. 
So and little cutting and welding and that was corrected. The ball joints are not good. The steering is VERY hard to turn while not moving. I did get another steering box, with it but not sure what the real problem is yet. Looking at C and CA pictures This is messed up pretty good!:)

She is a little chub compared to her big sisters the WD's!

Exhaust was the first thing to come off. This may not be final:

Tries are cracked from age, but in fair shape, Jack had widened the rims which are IH style. He found two more weights which are portions of IH weights about 40 lb each.
 

Looking forward to see how it does at the final pull of the season, coming up OCT 8:
Regards,
 Chris


Edited by Sugarmaker - Yesterday at 7:58am
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Chris, how is the manifold? I've had five 125 CI engines now, none had a serviceable one on it when it got here!
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That's the power maker resistor...
.. Keeps the points from burning when converted to 12 volts.
 Have fun Chris, those are snappy little engines.
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Your "Johnny Cash" CA has a mis-mash of many things. The odd steering is because of the "long arm" Steering box from a C with the "short arm" C front post. Find a CA post and steering box and then make sure things are "Timed" as per the service manual and it will steer the same both ways as when it left the factory.
 Consider adding a charging unit. Just having a battery for starting lowers available voltage for ignition.
 There isn't much difference in any of the CE engines that were use in the B.C & CA tractors. Basically the CA would have a higher RPM governor spring a slightly larger venturi that what was used for a B&C. Also the engines used in the CA would have a slightly higher compression. In stock form those engines will do very well with Grampa gear restrictions and near factory size tires as you have. However if you want more, your wallet is the only limit of what can be done. Here's how the CA I had would run in 3rd gear.
 


Edited by PaulB - Yesterday at 12:58pm
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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what Paul said.......



Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Congrats Chris! Looks much better than my CA. I'm sure you'll get the steering sorted out in no time.
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