Allis B Ring Gear Question

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So my B is pretty much made of spare parts we had lying around the farm from many different machines. It is a 1944 rear end so it has the starter opening in the torque tube but the only flywheel I had was from a hand start combine power unit so it doesn't have a ring gear and I also don't have a starter for it so I have always just hand started it. However I recently found a loader for it and I would like to do a live crankshaft pump for the hydraulics and therefore thought about finally make it electric start. 
Now the actual question: Are the ring gears that you can buy for a B compatible with a hand start flywheel (can I just put a press fit ring gear on the combine flywheel)? Or, do I need to get a different flywheel that was designed for a ring gear from the start? 

Edited by cpg - 22 Dec 2015 at 7:44am

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cpg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 10 Jul 2015 Location: Michigan Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote cpg Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Allis B Ring Gear Question Posted: 22 Dec 2015 at 7:44am
	So my B is pretty much made of spare parts we had lying around the farm from many different machines. It is a 1944 rear end so it has the starter opening in the torque tube but the only flywheel I had was from a hand start combine power unit so it doesn't have a ring gear and I also don't have a starter for it so I have always just hand started it. However I recently found a loader for it and I would like to do a live crankshaft pump for the hydraulics and therefore thought about finally make it electric start. Now the actual question: Are the ring gears that you can buy for a B compatible with a hand start flywheel (can I just put a press fit ring gear on the combine flywheel)? Or, do I need to get a different flywheel that was designed for a ring gear from the start? Edited by cpg - 22 Dec 2015 at 7:44am

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Dick L Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dick L Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2015 at 8:22am
	None of the flywheels that I have are. that does not mean that no crank start tractors of later years were not. I do not know how far away from me your are but I have a stack of flywheels in the shed that have bad ring gears on them. I am just South of the Michigan line at the Indiana line. I could meet at the Turn Pike mid toll at Ohio 49. I don't sell parts but will take anything in trade that you think would be worth what a used flywheel would be worth. Don't be shy, I said (anything) I received a quart of home made pickles one time for a part. Another time I received a can of smoked salmon. All trades leave me with a fun memory story.

CTuckerNWIL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825	Post Options Post Reply Quote CTuckerNWIL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2015 at 8:22am
	I don't know about the BE engine, but the early hand start W engines had a different flywheel that wasn't turned to accept the ring gear.
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wbecker Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Location: STL Points: 837	Post Options Post Reply Quote wbecker Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 2015 at 8:33am
	I would not want a loader on a B. There is no reinforcement from the front end support to the torque tube at the rear engine mount like on a D14/15. I had one that broke the lower rear engine mounts. Also the B has a weak steering box that would not last long with the extra loads on the front end. Just my opinion. Bill B
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