ALLIS 7050 multiple issues

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   I need assistance figuring this out.
I have a new to me 7050 that is;
Slipping like a typical clutch failure but no smoke or smell, the pto works and power steering when stall tested so I think the torque limiter is OK. 

the clutch pedal will sometime stay down and need to be pulled up manually,

the inching spool will not come out all the way on its own when the clutch is to the floor which causes the trans break to not engage. The spool can be pulled  out manually and then the trans break seems to work.

The second range power director will not stay engaged. When the pedal is pressed it will shift to second range and then shift back to low range on its own. 

I changed the tranny oil and filter, but it didn't help.

When I first started looking into this I was thinking Power director re-seal. But now it seems there are issues in the power director valve or maybe the oil pump. I'm new at this so im hoping you experts out there will share your knowlege.  

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notime Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 20 Jul 2022 Location: Canada Points: 42	Post Options Post Reply Quote notime Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: ALLIS 7050 multiple issues Posted: 20 Jul 2022 at 5:26pm
	I need assistance figuring this out. I have a new to me 7050 that is; Slipping like a typical clutch failure but no smoke or smell, the pto works and power steering when stall tested so I think the torque limiter is OK. the clutch pedal will sometime stay down and need to be pulled up manually, the inching spool will not come out all the way on its own when the clutch is to the floor which causes the trans break to not engage. The spool can be pulled out manually and then the trans break seems to work. The second range power director will not stay engaged. When the pedal is pressed it will shift to second range and then shift back to low range on its own. I changed the tranny oil and filter, but it didn't help. When I first started looking into this I was thinking Power director re-seal. But now it seems there are issues in the power director valve or maybe the oil pump. I'm new at this so im hoping you experts out there will share your knowlege.

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notime Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 20 Jul 2022 Location: Canada Points: 42	Post Options Post Reply Quote notime Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 2022 at 5:29pm
	I forgot to mention that I cleaned the pick-up screen when I changed the oil.

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21361	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 2022 at 8:10pm
	Clutch pedal must come up fully on its own. New cable and fork bushings down below and adjust correctly. High range button will always come back to low range whenever the clutch pedal is pushed in and that is normal. You'd better check clutch pump pressure on top of the clutch valve. Clutch pressure should be 195 to 205 psi throttled up. You might have a bad transmission clutch pump.

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jul 2022 at 9:07pm
	Also sounds like you need a new clutch return spring. If it some times locks In and holds, PD needs resealed. May need resealed anyway. MACK

notime Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 20 Jul 2022 Location: Canada Points: 42	Post Options Post Reply Quote notime Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 12:42am
	Thanks guys. I appreciate your input. I got ahold of a gage this evening, the top test port was seized but I got into the trans break line. Pressure was at 156 idle and 207 @ 2200 with coldish oil (with the cutch in) so I think the pressure is ok. I took it for a spin and when it started slipping on a hill I shifted the range plunger and found that high range stopped the slippage. So maybe a leak in the low range system? My low trans pressure light would only flash on for a moment when I shifted the range peddles. I had previously set the clutch cable as best I could but there is a lot of play at the peddle end. The clutch return spring, That's the big one inside the canister in line with the inching spool or the one above it?

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Jul 2022 at 7:09am
	Return spring is the spring above pedal that pull pedal back. MACK