AC Hay Conditioner

Does anybody have any information on a hay conditioner, we called them crimpers.  My son found one in some weeds at a neighbors who was giving him the scrap for cleaning it up.  It clearly has an Allis-Chalmers decal on it, but cannot find the model or any ID plate.  I thought it best to scrap, but he loves anything Allis.  So we took it home, put ne tires and a new chain, with about a can of penetrating oil, filled the gearbox.  Lo and behopld hooked it up and ran great.  It has a smooth rubber roll, and a notched steel one.  A post on ebay lists a model 25, but we just don't know.  Who knows a little paint and we might have something.  Any ideas?  I can't find anything in the Agco on-line books, and dealer doesn't have anything.  Thanks

thay made a 904 one of the later models

I have an original operator/parts manual and there is no model number shown. The only option was a hyd. lift att. It also shows an improvement pkg shipped to dealers for models up to 1101.
Should be a serial no. stamped on R.H. side plate.

Bill(MO)

I,ve pulled one over many,many acres with Farmall H tractor. They are OK in short hay,but in tall orchard grass or fescue it will constantly wrap the steel roller.  You will need a SHARP knife and tons of patience. I know it is AC,but in my opinion they aren't worth TWO DEAD FLIES. This is one machine that would even make the pope cuss. 

we ran one, and yes it tried your patience at time, if the divider board work on the mower, it worked ok, but if it wasnt didided clean it would plug on the end, and would need to be cut out.  i think the roll was worn, and that why it did that.  it worked better the newer it was.  Did help dry the hay though, maybe a day or day and 1/2. earlier.

Dennis, can you get me a length on the pto shaft on yours? I have seen your video and it appears to work well.

Wow that is something. We always thought it was certain types of hay that wrapped or not. Some fields didn't give us trouble an some did every time. I had an axe laying right on conditioner and when it wrapped would cut through the wad then take it to the nearest woodchuck mound or any other mound and drive over it, that would turn the bottom roll an turn the plugged hay out.

Hey bill here's a picture of a purchase statement from my grandfathers dealership. It's heading is. Allis-Chalmers manufacturing company. Syracuse, New York

In the middle is hay conditioner
Oh here on the second page he got two in 63

I'll have to look SR number of the one at the farm, one of these went to they're farm an still have in barn

Edited by Mikez - 28 Dec 2019 at 8:22pm

AC720Man wrote: Dennis, can you get me a length on the pto shaft on yours? I have seen your video and it appears to work well.

Here is the measurement 52.5". That is with the P.T.O. pulled out about 10" as I could not get it slid all the way in.

Thanks Dennis, I will see if I can find one at TSC.

Thanks, I will check them out

AC720Man wrote: Thanks, I will check them out

you might call Sloan’s express located in Assumption IL. A few years back, Brian Sims @ Sloan Express, found me a reasonably priced replacement pto for an older IH 60 flail mower. It has been a good quality part. Here’s their web link info:
https://www.sloanex.com/contact-us