AC 7060 vs IH 1586

I thought the 1586 had a 3 speed or 4 speed trans (plus the torque), that's why they sold so cheap.  Not familiar with IH, but we have a 7060.  It is/was a great tractor, but liked to drink the fuel.  I would think the 7060's transmission would be way better than the 1586's.  Powershift would have 12 forward gears, and power director would have 20 forward. IH would have 6 or 8. They are both rock solid transmissions IMHO.  Wouldn't the IH have the goofy suicide style doors?  Hard to get in and out of, but bigger cab.  I should know a little about the IH, as my neighbor has well over 100 of them.

The technology in a 7060 by far would exceed a 1586. The best part of the IH is the engine.

just because a tractor is popular doesn't make it a great tractor. 15's had problems with the planetaries, and axles, plus the speed transmission is only 3 speed. A 7060 would be a far better tractor, and so would a 4640.

Better cab on a IH?????  OH MY, if i bought a IH,  1ST thing id do is cut the darn cab off!  Stupid doors, poor layout.  Ih was always way behind in the cab department

 Good comparison.

Edited by MikeB (SD) - 21 Mar 2011 at 5:35pm

all color opinions aside the cab on a 1586 has NO LEG ROOM!!!  a 7000 ser may be tight in the shoulder area but for a tall guy 86 ser. cabs are a leg cramp waiting to happen! I am 6ft 7in I know.

MI8050 wrote: 1586's are too slow with less gears and had the planetary rears, sort of an orphan 86 series.  I had a 986 and have a 786, the 86's don't ride that bad, the 986 had ok leg room and I'm 6'3".  I always have liked the 7000 series and thought they were advanced for their time, my 8050 has plenty of cab.  IH hit the 200hp mark with the 5488 (not officially but certainly on any dyno, and they held up to it.  I hate to say it but you don't see 5488's repowered, only 8070's.  I like 'em all!!!!!

had a 1586, sold it 8 yrs ago T/A went out right before i sold it so $2500 for that , 3 gears for shifting, terrible, rough ride because it is soo short weel base , hard to get in and out of ,just about tumbled many times, only my opinion. 7060 never had one , so no idea.

7000 series was way ahead of any company at the time, exspecially with the black bellies. I prefer allis because of the leg room. The visibility is probably about the same or not better with 7000 series than the 86 series IH, lay out of the cab is important, and Allis had a heck of a good transmission either being a PD or a PS. Yes the cab is a a little narrow on the 7000's, but the smaller the cab is the closer the ladies have to sit next to ya!

Can't resist. The long list of poor IH design once again. The front axle is high wear and used way to many unnecessary parts. Same with the 3-point hitch. The engines, although you can get good power of them, are not good luggers stock and run at very high RPM so are noisy. The dry clutch is by nature high maintenance and it not unusual for the clutch splines shuck out requiring the replacement of the IPTO splined shaft also. Do I need to mention the TA whether it's the standard or the mechanical diode makes little difference. While you're into these areas you might as well replace the hydraulic pumps as they do not hold up well. These IH 66 and 86 series are notorious for there transmission, rear end and rear axle problems. Then you have the park lock that is so easy to bust cause the tiniest roll while you put it in park will take it out. Make sure you are stopped completely before putting in park. Brakes in most models are very poor and require maintenance and even after repair many times are only moderately good brakes. The PTO if you use it much will eventually give trouble. Sometimes a tiny little roll pin will brake and require a tear down of the PTO. The shifting is absolute junk and high maintenance. Try to pull a starter on a 1566 once. It ain't fun. All this and I'm sure I forgot things. Creature comforts leave a bit to be desired like the location of controls, cab doors, rear visibility and rough riding although I never thought they rode that bad but my 7050 rides better.

Well yall seem to have some terible things to say about the 1586... But ours has been running and working HARD for years and I dont think we had to do any real maintence except oil changes. It has less gears because of the very large diff, and gears "wich me and my dad have heard of few giving out! I'v never had any problem with hooking up the 3point or drawbar. It has pulled a 21" finish tool most of its life and had no real problems! And a good set of front weights and rear radials will smooth out the ride as ours rides as good or beater than our 7045!

Chris WI wrote: all color opinions aside the cab on a 1586 has NO LEG ROOM!!!  a 7000 ser may be tight in the shoulder area but for a tall guy 86 ser. cabs are a leg cramp waiting to happen! I am 6ft 7in I know.

Plowed with 7060 and disked/hauled manure with 1086.  Didn't know enough back then but I liked them both.  One thing I'll say, (being tall), is you can't just raise seat as you end up bonking your head on the roof of any tractor.

I do like watching these old films no matter the color. I smiled when they referred to their Control Center and to John Deere's cab. Just cab and not Sound Gard cab.

injpumpEd wrote: 86 IH good cab visibility? REALLY??? hook up to the 3pt, or drawbar in one? There is a mirror because you can't even see the darn hitch!! I did get good at using that mirror though. Plenty of IH's repowered with dime-a-dozen DT466 truck motors. Why put a cummins in one when these motors are everywhere, and bolt in. 400 series is a good engine, but they do have their problems too! Ed.

The reason you cant see is because of that "kids seat"! I spent a many years rideing on that shelf when I was little!