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AC 6060 on Round Baler
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    Posted: 16 Aug 2022 at 9:54pm
Checking if anyone has ever used a 6060 on a round baler. My two neighbors who used to bale for me no longer do custom work . Most of the posts on other tractor forums say 65 HP enough power but tractor weight big issue  My 6060 has FWA and I think it weighs around 7500 lbs (not counting 500 lb weights on front). Other option would be to bite the bullet and look for a 200 or 7000 for more hp
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What model baler and size bale are you thinking of using behind your AC 6060 tractor ?
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4x4 baler would work on 65 hp tractor. On my JD 467, I would not want anything less than 90hp especially on hills. 190xt is a good match, assuming you can mount a bale monitor.
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We baled 25+ years with our AC180 / 185's on a vermeer 605C and later 605F baler.  We're in the Loess hills of west central Iowa, no issue on power or weight. The 6060 is a little less HP but about the same weight, unless the FWA adds more. You may need to add weight to rears if it doesn't have some already. 
Our 18.4x 28 tires carry 1150 lbs fluid in each tire, according to local tireman. A 180 tractor w/ fluid about 7700 lbs. The 185 had no fluid but 3 F & H weights on each side, we've never weighed it.
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Our 180 weighed about 8500 lbs. with 18.4 x 28 tires full of CaCl. the first time I pulled it.
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Neighbor uses a 6070 on a large NH Round Baler. I think it is a 5x5.
It has the 18.4x28 tires so it would basically be the same dims as a 6060.
It is 2wd.
He prefers that over the 8030 he has running that baler.
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looking at 4 x 5 baler something like a vermeer 504
I’m not worried about weight just don’t want to burn up anything due to inadequate HP
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Just like a plow. Pulling too hard?? shift down a gear. 
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Originally posted by ACkojack ACkojack wrote:

looking at 4 x 5 baler something like a vermeer 504
I’m not worried about weight just don’t want to burn up anything due to inadequate HP
Pulling a round baler doing dry hay does not take tons of  PTO HP.  If it is taking tons of HP, you're tractor is bogging down, etc., slow down a little!  We've been round baling hay with around 65 - 70 HP on a few different tractors for over 30 years.  No PTO issues.  
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I think you will have no problem handling a 4x5 Vermeer round baler behind your 6060 even on hills, specially if you just doing dry hay. The PTO horsepower requirement on most 4x5 balers is usually 45 PTO horsepower, so your AC 6060 should be good.
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Originally posted by ACkojack ACkojack wrote:

looking at 4 x 5 baler something like a vermeer 504
I’m not worried about weight just don’t want to burn up anything due to inadequate HP

You'll be fine. I pull a 504 signature with a NH Powerstar 75. Approximately 62 PTO hp.
I baled 4x4s with a NH pulling it with a Ford 3930 FWD (45 PTO hp) on some very steep hillsides. 
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anyone bale with a New Holland 640? I see one at local auction but likely requires more hp than Vermeer 504 
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I don't see what the big deal is. . . . .No, I've never used a NH 640, but so what?  They all do pretty much the same thing!  IF you aren't doing silage bales, IF you aren't using crop cutters, IF you aren't trying to schitt out a 1000 lb bale every 50 seconds, IF you don't drive like Mario Andretti on the hills, Imma bet you can make it work just fine!  How much hay are you planning to make?  IDK, maybe this thing packs super tight, but still, even that's adjustable?  No??
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I have a New Holland 848 chain baler, i use my 170 and my 6060 both run it just fine no issues at all. Like Doc said grab a lower gear, the 6060's got'em.
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I run an 849 New Holland with my 6060 and it does fine.
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I wouldn’t even dream of trying to bale silage with a 6060
I’m looking at around 50 to 75 bales a year 
If I’m doing balage I, would hire that out to a bigger setup but he’s a ways away and have to make it worth his while 
Appreciate all the tips 
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