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Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

Yup Shameless there isn't alot of money in it for agco when I can farm this land with a d17 probably better then I could with modern equipment.   I have often wonder it that didn't have alot to do with farms getting bigger and bigger and the smaller "difficult" fields just being deemed unfarmable.   Around here the fields are just small between the rivers and mountains but if you have the older small equipment they produce well. Sad as I struggle to try and get the farm going again and it feels like you can't make money on a farm this size.


The small fields thing is something I don't understand about the local hay cutters. They say their equipment is to big for that size field when you look in the tree line there's a 7 ft sickle, bar rake, and 2 basket tedder.

I say let them turn their nose up to the small fields. The more they pass on, the more I get. And I don't have $50000 to $75000 in hay equipment I can't use. If I added right I've got more like $8000 in everything.
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Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Not exactly the same but have a neighbor who buys tractor, combines, and other stuff, soon as he has trouble he just parks it and buys another,  has 7040,7030,a couple 190xts, 3 New Holland combines, a JD and an L, all broke down and you can't buy anything from him to try to fix, think he has ten acres of decent machinery that could all be repaired except some has stood for  too many years now.


Sounds like my father.
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The sad part about those guys that keep buying and holding things is that someone will probably just say it is all scrap after they pass on. But as Shameless pointed out if it wasn't for people like that we wouldn't be able to find those hidden treasures we all enjoy when they come up.
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Another example; how many of us have driven by an old dealership for years and see the same tractor/equipment sitting out back? "Not for sale" and they will say nothing else . . .
As a kid, asked my dad enough times why the local dealership had so many tractors out back on blocks, current or fairly recent models and one day at that dealership the owner overheard me asking my dad again.
He took the time to explain that they will likely never move as all were in litigation over repairs and or warranty issues and he could not touch them legally.
Dealer passed and building fell down about ten years ago and to my knowledge, all tractors from the 60's and 70's are still there . . . .
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Well I bet if you do some digging now Tim you could buy them. There is a time when that stuff all just goes away from age. Who ever owns the land now would probably be happy to sell them.
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Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

Yup Shameless there isn't alot of money in it for agco when I can farm this land with a d17 probably better then I could with modern equipment.   I have often wonder it that didn't have alot to do with farms getting bigger and bigger and the smaller "difficult" fields just being deemed unfarmable.   Around here the fields are just small between the rivers and mountains but if you have the older small equipment they produce well. Sad as I struggle to try and get the farm going again and it feels like you can't make money on a farm this size.


Dan,
Not sure how much money there is to be made. My dad never made a bunch of money but sure enjoyed raising crops and milking cows.
Good luck with your farm!
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Originally posted by Sugarmaker Sugarmaker wrote:


Originally posted by Dan73 Dan73 wrote:

Yup Shameless there isn't alot of money in it for agco when I can farm this land with a d17 probably better then I could with modern equipment.   I have often wonder it that didn't have alot to do with farms getting bigger and bigger and the smaller "difficult" fields just being deemed unfarmable.   Around here the fields are just small between the rivers and mountains but if you have the older small equipment they produce well. Sad as I struggle to try and get the farm going again and it feels like you can't make money on a farm this size.


Dan,
Not sure how much money there is to be made. My dad never made a bunch of money but sure enjoyed raising crops and milking cows.
Good luck with your farm!
Regards,
 Chris


Sugarmaker just hit it on the head. I'm looking forward to taking over/buying my inlaws farm when I can get my house sold. People say all the time "I wouldn't do that for anything""that chicken litter smells terrible!why do you want to do that?". The reason is I love it. Other then my marriage and my kids coming along, the time I spent on a chicken farm with my grandparents is the best time of my life. We worked or asses off and sure didn't get rich doing it. But everytime I get a little bit down I start to think about those days and things seem to get better. Now my girls are experiencing the same times with my inlaws and I can see it growing in them. I can't explain it but I know it can't be wrong!
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I understand people keeping for pats but this stuff just stands there, went from AC to IH, Versatile, had Olivers too, its not just tractors, I think 4 gooseneck stock trailers, floor goes bad get another one rather than fix, I think has 6 corn planters, JD, AC, and a newer White that he used one year, not for sale, been siting now 5 or six years, just a little maddening for someone that could use some of that stuff.
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Every time I see something -- anything -- "parked," I wonder who parked it, and if that individual realize that it would never move again.  Sad.
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Chris my goal right now is to just get it to pay the bills. Problem is there are alot of unreasonable bills because I am just trying to get things going again. The place is really run down. But anyway that is way off topic. I have a plan and if I can work the plan this summer I should be ok. I know I won't get rich here but paying my bills would be nice right now I am just spending savings.
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I looked at a Cyclo 400 sitting out behind a dealer once. They felt it was worth a lot for parts and wanted a lot more than I was willing to pay. Its probably still there 25 years later. I bought the same model machine at an auction that year for $185. Proved to not be worth that much when looking at the quality of planting. I still have it and another one I converted into a side dresser. Planting with my JD 7000 planter produced enough better crop to pay for it in a year.

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Its not my money thats tide up so I really dont care what anyone does!!  But yes i do question them for letting their stuff just sit!!
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Originally posted by JWingerter JWingerter wrote:

Every time I see something -- anything -- "parked," I wonder who parked it, and if that individual realize that it would never move again.  Sad.


Me too!
I wonder that a lot. There's also another 6600 that sat for 20 years, a guy got it running and cut 300 acres with it. It then had a flat and it's been "farmed around" for about 10 years. Sad.
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Farmer down the road seems to be a pack rat so I looked at Google Earth and took a look from overhead.  Holy cow he's got trailers, trucks, big trucks, dump trucks, tractors, tillage equipment, combines scattered all over the place that can't be seen from the road and that's just what can be seen from overhead and not hidden by the trees and brush. 
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I leave stuff set around so the neighbors and rubber neckers  have something to talk about besides the weather. When they drive in and ask if it is for sale I get to ask them if they see a for sale sign anywhere.
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Dick if you want to keep them talking move it around once in a while... I think they call that yard art.

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Common theme all over the world,went to a farm sale in 1985 ,wanted to buy a massey harris 44k tractor it had been stored undercover its whole life, anyway it was in the line up out in the field with all the other machinery ,i was the only bidder on it(no one was into old vintage tractors much then)auctioneer said they wanted more then my bid and passed over it. So i talked to the owner after the sale who got all mad and wanted a lot more than i was gonna pay . The farm was sold before the sale and so the tractor was still out in the field where it was left till just ayear or two ago,totally ruined by the weather.Guess he showed me.h then)

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sometimes they win.guy around corner has small Case hydralic tractor/loader(446,464,466?),anyway, has yard sale, I ask ??, he says $1200.sorry, too much, here's a 4" sapling growing through the loader, tires, shot,12HP Kohler.but had 'potential' at $500. That was 25 years ago...Last summer I notice it's gone,ok got moved, then missing, guy pulls in( cause Jay has everything) looking for tires,says he bought a babby loader down the street. Yup he bought it, so I had to ask $$, he PAID $1000 for it !! hello ? rotted hoses,no tires,bad engine,rotted steel and this guy figures 'it was a good deal' ! Oh well, both sides of the deal were happy, me I just shake my head.....I've bought a RUNNING, GOOD D-14 with plow for less !

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Jay that case ingersoll should be a 646 should have had a 16 hp motor in it if it was a factory loader tractor.   The 400 serries don't have factory loader because the have lighter steering and a lighter front end. I have 4 of the 400 case ingersoll garden tractors of course non of them run.   If that is a 646 and he gets it running good looking good it will sell for $5500 to $6500 around here. Don't ask me why I have no idea why people pay like that for them. I collected mine when I lived on a small 10 acre lot and wanted them for small home owner things. What I like most about them is the wood splitter that came with one of mine.
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I've left certain pieces of equipment scattered all over....why? cuz when someone comes in a night with their lights off to steal something...they'll hit it and do more damage to their vehicle than to the piece of equipment! (has worked...several times)!
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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

I've left certain pieces of equipment scattered all over....why? cuz when someone comes in a night with their lights off to steal something...they'll hit it and do more damage to their vehicle than to the piece of equipment! (has worked...several times)!


My farm is a business it needs to look professional. What image of ag do you to portray? We are less than 2% of the population we need to put ourselves in a good light for the 98% that are our customers.
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But if you lives out in the boondocks, no one gonna see it anyway!!
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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

I've left certain pieces of equipment scattered all over....why? cuz when someone comes in a night with their lights off to steal something...they'll hit it and do more damage to their vehicle than to the piece of equipment! (has worked...several times)!

Great Granddad used to have a problem in the 20's with kids coming and stealing gas out of his 55 gallon drum with the crank type pump on top. What he did was set the gas drum in the shed and set another drum full of water in its place! A teenage kid came by one night and filled up his Ford model A with the "gas" (water). When he started to drive off, it died and he had to walk home! The next morning great granddad found the A, knew who's it was, called his Dad, and had him took to jail for 3 days!
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it's a farm, farms have equipment, equipment parked where ever shows it's a farm, I pay for the equipment, no one else does, so no one else can tell me not to park anything I have anywhere they think it should be! my farm is a business too like most all others are! city bots used to call in to our office and complain that the farmer was parked on the grass on his own farm and they didn't think it was right that they do that....now...what do you think?
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I think we should all take a step back on our approach to wanting to buy someone else's equipment. It's their tractor and memory's not ours. I'm dealing with my parents getting older now, and it's tough. They have a lot on their mind now and decisions to make, and know the end is approaching. A person may not really care about your dreams of restoring a tractor or car. They may have more important issues to deal with.   My dad is very happy that I restored his B, and gives us lots to talk about. Maybe instead of trying to "pick" something, go spend an afternoon talking and mostly listening to his stories. That's just my two cents...
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I don't get you guys who say you couldn't buy a old machine because of the tax man having his fingers in it?  

That's what doing deals in cash was all about!   I have yet to ever find anything that couldn't be bought for cash in hand if the guy had any honest thoughts over selling an item.   

Most of the things I have collected over the years came exactly from the cash in hand method of purchase. Either that or the trade for trade of labor or something else of value.
Any way the transactions went down the tax man was never brought in on the deals. 
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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

it's a farm, farms have equipment, equipment parked where ever shows it's a farm, I pay for the equipment, no one else does, so no one else can tell me not to park anything I have anywhere they think it should be! my farm is a business too like most all others are! city bots used to call in to our office and complain that the farmer was parked on the grass on his own farm and they didn't think it was right that they do that....now...what do you think?

They're trying to get laws down here that prohibit parking on your lawn if you own less than 20 acres! Phfffft!!!
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Did you figure out who wants those laws and politely encourage them to move back to the city? We get alot of imports here who move here because they think they would like to live in the country then they start trying to get all the services they had in the city. One of them kept commenting on how great it was close to Boston where he had all the services. I finally told him if he missed it that much he should move back we didn't move there he moved here. Needless to say he left looking pretty upset.
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There has been an ordinance in Story County Iowa that limits equipment that can't move itself to a maximum number of 3 items on a acreage. I know a fellow with horse drawn buggies was cited under that and he sued. I don't recall the outcome. Under that rule a tractor had to be capable of running to set in the yard. The rule didn't apply to a property zoned as a farm which requires 35 acres exclusive of the road right of way.

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Originally posted by Gerald J. Gerald J. wrote:

There has been an ordinance in Story County Iowa that limits equipment that can't move itself to a maximum number of 3 items on a acreage. I know a fellow with horse drawn buggies was cited under that and he sued. I don't recall the outcome. Under that rule a tractor had to be capable of running to set in the yard. The rule didn't apply to a property zoned as a farm which requires 35 acres exclusive of the road right of way.

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It is a good thing there is an exemption for farms because you couldn't have very many implements otherwise.   Just thinking off the top of my head I have about 10 things or so off the top of my head I would be in trouble for with those rules.
I do actually understand junk yard rules got a brother who just collects old junk cars things he has no plans on fixing. He has gone down and registered them before to get the town off his back. But he has frames and rusted out bodies all over the place has to clean them up every 5 years or so because the town comes knocking on his door. I think it is a classic example of how people are bound ot mess it up for everyone else.
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