Abandoned Equipment
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Topic: Abandoned Equipment
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: Abandoned Equipment
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 5:33pm
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I've thought about this often, but why do farmers who seem to quit farming just let their equipment sit idle for years and rot?? There's an old farm about a mile from me with a 8630 JD sitting out in the yard, as well as a 4440 with a front end loader. There is also a huge barn a few hundred yards away and most of the barn has fallen down, revealing a JD 6600 sitting inside. There's also other implements around the pasture. Everything is all grown up in weeds. All this equipment came from the same era and I can only think about what that farmer thought when he bought these pieces new. (If he did). They were some top-of-the-line things back then and probably cost a fortune!! (If you ask a JD guy) Imagine going and buying a farm yard full of new equipment such as a Case IH Quad Track, Gleaner S97, etc., using it a few years, and then letting it sit. I see this kind of thing a lot, and I can't help but always wonder why...Why do they just "abandon" the farm and leave all the good equipment there rust away?? I know someone, somewhere would like to have it. Even if they are JD, I hate to see them all sit like that.
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 5:46pm
| People tend to think it is worth the price they paid for it new alot of times and they think anyone who makes a reasonable offer is low balling them. I have heard old timers tell me before that for that for price it can just sit there. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:03pm
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Especially with JD! LOL They say it never depreciates!
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Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:04pm
Can't tell you how many times I've heard the exact same thing! ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Dan73 wrote:Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:12pm
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The other line is that it's 'sentimental'.....been in the family for years( decades).. gee whiz, if it's that's precious WHY is it rotting away in the back forty ? I have found that IF you're very nice, not pushy, say 'it'd go to a good home, be used properly' you can get the odd piece... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:22pm
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There could be many, many reason's why that equipment could be laying there. One of the many reasons is health. As farmers age, they can't do the work anymore period. Maybe some passed away unexpectedly, and the wife is left with the farm. Depending how old she is, may not be able to handle such a task. So she lives there on the farm and doesn't bother with anything but keeping herself healthy. (depending on how old she is) Son's or Daughters or other family members don't want anything to do with the farm or any of that equipment, so it sits and rots. That's just a few. I'm sure like I said , there are many scenario's and circumstances involved.... JMHO ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:51pm
| i allways wondered why things got parked where they got parked like if a combine dyed out in the field it would just get farmed around or just unhooked where they got done with it never to go back to the yard. when i grew up every thing was parked in a straight row in the yard even if it had to be hauled back in pieces never to move again |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 6:53pm
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Pawpaw has a case 1835 skid steer sitting here with the arms raised where he was working on it when he got sick and couldn't do it anymore. It sat that way for a few years and somebody stopped and offered to buy it. They asked and he said $3500. The guy told him he was way to high and asked if he actually thought he'd get that for it. He said "I've fought with the damn thing long enough til I'll get that or watch it rot. If you want it the price is $3600!" The man quickly left without another word and pawpaw told me "when I'm gone y'all can do what you want to with it. But for now the SOB is going to sit where it is!" He's been gone a little over a year and it's still sitting. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:12pm
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And then some of those old farmewrs got attachment to their equipment and figure when they are gone, the heirs can take care of them then...
and another thing them old guys say is, 'they can sit there, they don't owe me anything'
an one old guy says he figures since he is in retirement now, they can be too.
Many don't want to sell them just for them to end up in china either.
So theres many reasons... just a guess, I would say the biggest probably would be the memories ... and the old guys won't be buying anything big like that after they retire either.
Well, I do know of one 78 year old that bought a used 7720 and went back to custom combining. Maybe some of those that retired think they will go back to farming someday? LOL ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: eighty nine
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:12pm
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We had a neighbor that done sort of the same other than left it in the shed. He said he owed nothing on it, didn't need the money & had no expenses to offset the income tax if he sold it . So rather than give it to Uncle Sam it set there. Probably a similar situation at your neighbors Creston. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:14pm
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My elderly neighbor Rosella has dimensia SPL ? and is living in a home with others in same predicament . Her kids cannot get along and the oldest son cannot make any important decisions without running it by his sisters lawyer and getting before a judge because his sister and him don't talk . Basically nothing happens , 2 houses are sitting vacant ( Rosella's House and her rental house next door ) . They have not been lived in for a couple years . Heat and power are still on at Rosella's , the rental has no water , heat or electric , needs a lot of work done , but siblings cant make a decision together so they fight and nothing happens . If animals get inside it wont be long before they are worthless. Rosella has 3 cars , a truck , Wd45 , camper and they are all rotting in the ground . I mow and take care of the yard , I send a bill once a year and it takes a month to get paid . People stop me while I am mowing and ask if anything is for sale . I have to tell them to wait for the auction that will eventually come .I am sure by then everything will be worthless .Maybe it is best as I will be in the market to buy this property . I tried to get them to have a clean up day .Rosella and her husband never threw anything away . Lots of wood , rocks , concrete pieces , at least 2 roll back dumpters full of junk in the yard , farmstead . You should have heard the sister howl about throwing away all her parents valuable stuff . They don't get it and never will . Just one situation that explains why stuff sits ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:15pm
That sounds like something I'd do!!! Except I'd have a Gleaner!
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Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:32pm
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I also wonder if in some cases the bank still has something to say about it. Locally we've had some good luck getting some of the old equipment, and putting it back to work. A buddy & I do food plots and have a ball doing it. We've been reclaiming scrub land, cleaning up old farm dumps, doing proper soil nutrition and putting the land back to good productive working land again. The equipment we're buying is what no one else wants. The stuff is too small for the bigger farmers and too big for the typical food plot guy with a 30 HP Kubota. A few years ago we put out the word we were looking for a cultipacker. We were contacted by an older farmer who liked what we were doing and made us a **very** reasonable deal. But we sure have seen a fair amount of stuff go to rot as well... |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 7:54pm
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The neighbor that farmed the place I rented a house on for 40 years when he retired he did sell equipment but spread the sales over several years. All had been fully depreciated in his income tax returns and if I he sold it all the same year the tax on the recovered income from the depreciated items would have been severe. I'm sure he didn't own anything on any piece either, he was the kind that only bought when he had cash in the bank, otherwise he ran stuff a long time. Things like utility or loader tractors get kept for snow moving and rough mowing, though most of the year the neighbors hardly ever see them being used. Then I've kept my equipment as a reminder to my farm tenant that I could still farm it if we don't get along and I got really ambitious. I'll be 74 soon and I seem to be lazier each month so that's unlikely. Gerald J. |
Posted By: BPM75
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 8:04pm
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I think Gerald has a good point, I was thinking the same thing. I know of guys who have held on to equipment for years just so they don't have to pay taxes on the sale of the equipment. They would rather sit in a barn or outside and rot than let the government have any of their money, Lol. ------------- 59 D17 gas nf, 66 XT 190, 69 220. |
Posted By: torque tube
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 8:41pm
In this situation there was a young fella that ignored his mothers wishes and ignored all women , never married or had kids . This young fella loved old tractors and equipment especially combines and during his younger years he accumulates several old tractors and a few combines and other pieces of equipment . Tragically this fella was killed in the prime of life. His parents have passed on and his sister wants nothing to do with the stuff . He has no will . Weeds grow up in the stuff then it begins to rot . After several years the county steps it and the stuff is auctioned of and goes to the local scrapper to pay back taxes . Just one of many situations that could cause this to happen ------------- 36U,39B,,40RC,,37WC,37M,Rumely 6A |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 9:02pm
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Ambition may enter into this as well. In his later years my grandfather cut all his poorer pieces of equipment into prepared steel size chunks and we hauled it off for scrap. It was his way of cleaning up things. My wife was firmly told if I die who the auctioneer will be to liquidate the iron. The guy the wife and bought our farm from had his equipment sold as his health failed. In this last 8-9 months of his life he sold us the house and last few acres. We arranged a life lease on the house for him. When he passed all that remained was the contents of his house and his car. Between his death and his funeral the family took what they wanted from the house. Three hours after the funeral luncheon we had keys to the house. He controlled who had the farm, but lived in his house up until the last 2 weeks, and the son that was executor of the estate had an easier time settling things up. All were content when it ended. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 9:29pm
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I have stopped at many places over the years to see if tractors or equipment would happen to be for sale. And as said above, many times the owners won't sell due to uncle Sam getting the money. I used to do custom hay work for a guy that was about 3 miles from me. He cropped several acres and had several cows. He had a 1655, 1755 and 1855 oliver that he bought new. In 1992, he rented everything to a local BTO. I had tried for 32 years to buy those 3 tractors, but he always said no, cause he would just have to give the money to the govt. They sat in an enclosed shop, jacked up on blocks. He went in a nursing home 3 years ago. His wife called me then and asked if I was still interested. Long story short, we couldn't come to an agreement. She had everything he had hauled to an auction, and I FINA got the 1755 and 1855 bought Dec of 14. Folks that knew I had been trying for so long really thought it was funny. Everyone said they thought I paid too much, but I didnt, and there was another guy 100 bucks behind me too. Another thing that I often heard while trying to buy something that had been sitting for years was "I have that mortgaged for a whole lot more than it is worth. It's worth more to me to let it sit if they are crazy enough to loan me that amount against it." You just never know a person's real reason for some of the things they do. |
Posted By: GaryL
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 9:31pm
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It's just as irritating in the car world. You get these geezers (who you know the Grim Reaper is hanging around, just waiting for the moment) who refuse to part with a car or truck because "Some day, I'm gonna restore it!" My dad was a member of an antique car club sometime in the early 60s and said they were after a car some old bird had in his yard, but the old guy wanted too much money. Time went by, and the car eventually disintegrated. I subscribe to a periodical called Auto Restorer that had a great article, a few months ago, from a retired gentleman who wrote that he realized, one day, that it made absolutely no sense for him to hang on to all of his cars until he passed. It would be better if he gave them to his sons and grandchildren (boys and girls) so he could see them enjoy the vehicles; PLUS, he would get the chance to make a great impression on the grandchildren by being able to wrench on the vehicles with them. He concluded his article saying it was the best decision he ever made and it made a big impact on the lives of everyone. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 9:57pm
My granddad did a similar thing with a 193? Chevy car with a straight 8 and suicide doors. Gave it to my cousins husband and he is currently restoring it.
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Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 10:21pm
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Not exactly the same but have a neighbor who buys tractor, combines, and other stuff, soon as he has trouble he just parks it and buys another, has 7040,7030,a couple 190xts, 3 New Holland combines, a JD and an L, all broke down and you can't buy anything from him to try to fix, think he has ten acres of decent machinery that could all be repaired except some has stood for too many years now. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: AllisChalmers8070
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 10:28pm
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Jim I can't stand it when people do that! They won't fix it but they won't sell it. We have a neighbor that does this. His whole place is filled with junk! I lot of could have been saved but what are you going to do I guess... On the bright side there is no AC out there. ------------- 180 190XT 7045 7060 S88 |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 11:03pm
| Jiminnd...I guess you could say I do the same...one machine breaks, i'll by another if it's cheaper than what the repairs will cost me. then I have parts for the one I just bought! has worked very well for me thru-out my lifetime! when I decide to quit what i'm doing, ya'll will see ads on this forum first, and if no takers, it'll go to auction...1 piece ata time! a friend had his farm sale a few years ago, retiring....had a BIG sale, and after taxes and paying auctioneers, he had enough money to buy a new pickup...and that was all! and as ya'll know when you have an auction, a lot of stuff gets picked thru and a lot left for you to clean up, then you have people that walk thru your buildings and even try to walk thru your house! you may have some stuff you want to keep and put it in a certain place to hold onto. have seen people acctually break locks to get into a building to see whats in there! then you have the thieves working around the farm before, during, and after the sale! haul items off to another location, or use an on-line auction and the buyers have to take it, if not it goes on the next sale at the buyers expense! |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2016 at 11:10pm
| also...if it wasn't for a lot of folks hanging onto their "junk", where would a lot of ya'll get your project tractors and equipment to restore? most dealers anymore don't want the old stuff on their lots, they wanna sell new stuff! and if an old piece will do the job cheaper, they can't sell a new piece! that's why AGCO don't want to sell much ALLIS parts and stuff! they want that ALLIS to fail so they can sell AGCO! |
Posted By: AllisChalmers8070
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 5:54am
Shameless don't you mean Massey Ferguson ------------- 180 190XT 7045 7060 S88 |
Posted By: Larry(OH)
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:18am
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Thats why the CL ads say "ran when parked" ------------- '40 WC puller, '65 770 Ollie *ALLIS EXPRESS contact* I can explain it to you, BUT I cannot understand it for you!! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:39am
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Yeesh, guess I'm in the boat with the others 'buying another tractor', sigh. Troy( #1 needed some parts, so I bought parts PARIS(#2) but... after changing 1-2-3-4 to 1-2-4-3 I didn't have the heart to steal parts off a good working tractor so....bought parts 'Rockton' which 'ran when parked' but has a loader and no brakes. Oops...redid the wiring and it runs fine...(still need parts for Troy though). Last year 'Milton' came here. Has 'real' loader and 11 gallons of oil in the rockshaft. Drained that,did some wiring and it's in shed #4. Hmm,still need parts for Troy though.... Along the way I bought the Gleaner A as the tires fit Troy,Paris,Rockton and Milton.Wife was not impressed and tires are still on it as it's 100% operational and in fine shape(better than me).Now the Cockshutt was supposed to be an 'engine donor' but it has a loader,factory rear weights,runs fine....and 7 squirts of ether does start the Buda dieselled A-C forklift.. so... I can see how and why some farmers have a lot of equipment laying around !! However I WILL sell if the stack of green is tall enough. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:52am
| yeah...8070, which ever brand, I used AGCO as an example, was better than saying jd! |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 7:48am
| Yup Shameless there isn't alot of money in it for agco when I can farm this land with a d17 probably better then I could with modern equipment. I have often wonder it that didn't have alot to do with farms getting bigger and bigger and the smaller "difficult" fields just being deemed unfarmable. Around here the fields are just small between the rivers and mountains but if you have the older small equipment they produce well. Sad as I struggle to try and get the farm going again and it feels like you can't make money on a farm this size. |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 8:08am
| Dad sold his tractors and left everything else sit in the late 1970's, most of it was 2 or 4 row stuff he bought in the 1950's or early 1960's. This was before all this food plot stuff came into being. Wasn't worth having a sale back then. I bought the big baler, chisel plow, and hay conditioner, sold a snap coupler 5 bottom plow. Dad passed away, about a year later someone brought loaders in and stole everything on the farm. There is still a reward out for the thieves. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 8:32am
The small fields thing is something I don't understand about the local hay cutters. They say their equipment is to big for that size field when you look in the tree line there's a 7 ft sickle, bar rake, and 2 basket tedder. I say let them turn their nose up to the small fields. The more they pass on, the more I get. And I don't have $50000 to $75000 in hay equipment I can't use. If I added right I've got more like $8000 in everything. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Daehler
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 8:59am
Sounds like my father. ------------- 8070FWA,7080 BlackBelly, 7045,2 200s,D19,D17,G, WD,45,UC,7 AC mowers and lots more! "IT TAKES 3 JD's TO OUT DO AN ALLIS, 2 TO MATCH IT IN THE FIELD AND 1 FOR PARTS!" |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 9:02am
| The sad part about those guys that keep buying and holding things is that someone will probably just say it is all scrap after they pass on. But as Shameless pointed out if it wasn't for people like that we wouldn't be able to find those hidden treasures we all enjoy when they come up. |
Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 9:53am
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Another example; how many of us have driven by an old dealership for years and see the same tractor/equipment sitting out back? "Not for sale" and they will say nothing else . . . As a kid, asked my dad enough times why the local dealership had so many tractors out back on blocks, current or fairly recent models and one day at that dealership the owner overheard me asking my dad again. He took the time to explain that they will likely never move as all were in litigation over repairs and or warranty issues and he could not touch them legally. Dealer passed and building fell down about ten years ago and to my knowledge, all tractors from the 60's and 70's are still there . . . . |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 9:57am
| Well I bet if you do some digging now Tim you could buy them. There is a time when that stuff all just goes away from age. Who ever owns the land now would probably be happy to sell them. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 10:41am
Dan, Not sure how much money there is to be made. My dad never made a bunch of money but sure enjoyed raising crops and milking cows. Good luck with your farm! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 11:15am
Sugarmaker just hit it on the head. I'm looking forward to taking over/buying my inlaws farm when I can get my house sold. People say all the time "I wouldn't do that for anything""that chicken litter smells terrible!why do you want to do that?". The reason is I love it. Other then my marriage and my kids coming along, the time I spent on a chicken farm with my grandparents is the best time of my life. We worked or asses off and sure didn't get rich doing it. But everytime I get a little bit down I start to think about those days and things seem to get better. Now my girls are experiencing the same times with my inlaws and I can see it growing in them. I can't explain it but I know it can't be wrong! ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 11:35am
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I understand people keeping for pats but this stuff just stands there, went from AC to IH, Versatile, had Olivers too, its not just tractors, I think 4 gooseneck stock trailers, floor goes bad get another one rather than fix, I think has 6 corn planters, JD, AC, and a newer White that he used one year, not for sale, been siting now 5 or six years, just a little maddening for someone that could use some of that stuff. ------------- 1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner) |
Posted By: JWingerter
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 12:04pm
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Every time I see something -- anything -- "parked," I wonder who parked it, and if that individual realize that it would never move again. Sad.
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 12:14pm
| Chris my goal right now is to just get it to pay the bills. Problem is there are alot of unreasonable bills because I am just trying to get things going again. The place is really run down. But anyway that is way off topic. I have a plan and if I can work the plan this summer I should be ok. I know I won't get rich here but paying my bills would be nice right now I am just spending savings. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 12:50pm
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I looked at a Cyclo 400 sitting out behind a dealer once. They felt it was worth a lot for parts and wanted a lot more than I was willing to pay. Its probably still there 25 years later. I bought the same model machine at an auction that year for $185. Proved to not be worth that much when looking at the quality of planting. I still have it and another one I converted into a side dresser. Planting with my JD 7000 planter produced enough better crop to pay for it in a year. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Kurt WI
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 1:57pm
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Its not my money thats tide up so I really dont care what anyone does!! But yes i do question them for letting their stuff just sit!! ------------- WD D17D 170 190xt 190xtIII 200 7020 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 2:35pm
Me too! I wonder that a lot. There's also another 6600 that sat for 20 years, a guy got it running and cut 300 acres with it. It then had a flat and it's been "farmed around" for about 10 years. Sad. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 3:08pm
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Farmer down the road seems to be a pack rat so I looked at Google Earth and took a look from overhead. Holy cow he's got trailers, trucks, big trucks, dump trucks, tractors, tillage equipment, combines scattered all over the place that can't be seen from the road and that's just what can be seen from overhead and not hidden by the trees and brush. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 4:08pm
| I leave stuff set around so the neighbors and rubber neckers have something to talk about besides the weather. When they drive in and ask if it is for sale I get to ask them if they see a for sale sign anywhere. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 4:31pm
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Dick if you want to keep them talking move it around once in a while... I think they call that yard art. |
Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 5:41pm
| Common theme all over the world,went to a farm sale in 1985 ,wanted to buy a massey harris 44k tractor it had been stored undercover its whole life, anyway it was in the line up out in the field with all the other machinery ,i was the only bidder on it(no one was into old vintage tractors much then)auctioneer said they wanted more then my bid and passed over it. So i talked to the owner after the sale who got all mad and wanted a lot more than i was gonna pay . The farm was sold before the sale and so the tractor was still out in the field where it was left till just ayear or two ago,totally ruined by the weather.Guess he showed me.h then) |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 5:57pm
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sometimes they win.guy around corner has small Case hydralic tractor/loader(446,464,466?),anyway, has yard sale, I ask ??, he says $1200.sorry, too much, here's a 4" sapling growing through the loader, tires, shot,12HP Kohler.but had 'potential' at $500. That was 25 years ago...Last summer I notice it's gone,ok got moved, then missing, guy pulls in( cause Jay has everything) looking for tires,says he bought a babby loader down the street. Yup he bought it, so I had to ask $$, he PAID $1000 for it !! hello ? rotted hoses,no tires,bad engine,rotted steel and this guy figures 'it was a good deal' ! Oh well, both sides of the deal were happy, me I just shake my head.....I've bought a RUNNING, GOOD D-14 with plow for less ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:32pm
| Jay that case ingersoll should be a 646 should have had a 16 hp motor in it if it was a factory loader tractor. The 400 serries don't have factory loader because the have lighter steering and a lighter front end. I have 4 of the 400 case ingersoll garden tractors of course non of them run. If that is a 646 and he gets it running good looking good it will sell for $5500 to $6500 around here. Don't ask me why I have no idea why people pay like that for them. I collected mine when I lived on a small 10 acre lot and wanted them for small home owner things. What I like most about them is the wood splitter that came with one of mine. |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:59pm
| I've left certain pieces of equipment scattered all over....why? cuz when someone comes in a night with their lights off to steal something...they'll hit it and do more damage to their vehicle than to the piece of equipment! (has worked...several times)! |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 9:52pm
My farm is a business it needs to look professional. What image of ag do you to portray? We are less than 2% of the population we need to put ourselves in a good light for the 98% that are our customers. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 9:57pm
| But if you lives out in the boondocks, no one gonna see it anyway!! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 10:00pm
Great Granddad used to have a problem in the 20's with kids coming and stealing gas out of his 55 gallon drum with the crank type pump on top. What he did was set the gas drum in the shed and set another drum full of water in its place! A teenage kid came by one night and filled up his Ford model A with the "gas" (water). When he started to drive off, it died and he had to walk home! The next morning great granddad found the A, knew who's it was, called his Dad, and had him took to jail for 3 days!
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Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 1:32am
| it's a farm, farms have equipment, equipment parked where ever shows it's a farm, I pay for the equipment, no one else does, so no one else can tell me not to park anything I have anywhere they think it should be! my farm is a business too like most all others are! city bots used to call in to our office and complain that the farmer was parked on the grass on his own farm and they didn't think it was right that they do that....now...what do you think? |
Posted By: PatrickBeth
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 5:34am
| I think we should all take a step back on our approach to wanting to buy someone else's equipment. It's their tractor and memory's not ours. I'm dealing with my parents getting older now, and it's tough. They have a lot on their mind now and decisions to make, and know the end is approaching. A person may not really care about your dreams of restoring a tractor or car. They may have more important issues to deal with. My dad is very happy that I restored his B, and gives us lots to talk about. Maybe instead of trying to "pick" something, go spend an afternoon talking and mostly listening to his stories. That's just my two cents... |
Posted By: Tcmtech
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 1:15pm
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I don't get you guys who say you couldn't buy a old machine because of the tax man having his fingers in it? That's what doing deals in cash was all about! I have yet to ever find anything that couldn't be bought for cash in hand if the guy had any honest thoughts over selling an item. Most of the things I have collected over the years came exactly from the cash in hand method of purchase. Either that or the trade for trade of labor or something else of value. Any way the transactions went down the tax man was never brought in on the deals.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 3:47pm
They're trying to get laws down here that prohibit parking on your lawn if you own less than 20 acres! Phfffft!!!
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Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 3:52pm
| Did you figure out who wants those laws and politely encourage them to move back to the city? We get alot of imports here who move here because they think they would like to live in the country then they start trying to get all the services they had in the city. One of them kept commenting on how great it was close to Boston where he had all the services. I finally told him if he missed it that much he should move back we didn't move there he moved here. Needless to say he left looking pretty upset. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 4:49pm
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There has been an ordinance in Story County Iowa that limits equipment that can't move itself to a maximum number of 3 items on a acreage. I know a fellow with horse drawn buggies was cited under that and he sued. I don't recall the outcome. Under that rule a tractor had to be capable of running to set in the yard. The rule didn't apply to a property zoned as a farm which requires 35 acres exclusive of the road right of way. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 5:03pm
It is a good thing there is an exemption for farms because you couldn't have very many implements otherwise. Just thinking off the top of my head I have about 10 things or so off the top of my head I would be in trouble for with those rules. I do actually understand junk yard rules got a brother who just collects old junk cars things he has no plans on fixing. He has gone down and registered them before to get the town off his back. But he has frames and rusted out bodies all over the place has to clean them up every 5 years or so because the town comes knocking on his door. I think it is a classic example of how people are bound ot mess it up for everyone else. |
Posted By: GM Guy
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2016 at 1:13am
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Creston, see if you can buy, fix up, and jockey the 4440, but as far as the 8630 and 6600... RUN! :) Even a JD guy wont defend a 8630.... Our place is quite cluttered with goodies, I have to get after dad to quit dragging home crap and stick to good stuff, its not the quantity that bugs me its the quality. :) Dad's biggest hang up is junk tires, he drug home a 30.5L32 Firestone home out of a back pile for 17.50, I asked if he looked it over. "A little" was the response. I stuck my head in and turned in all directions, and found the seperating sidewall pretty quick. Oh goodie, now we get to pay the disposal fee....if we ever took it in for disposal. Instead they sit around, collect water, and grow mosquitoes. I blame the mosquitoes on the tires, he gets defensive saying they come in on the wind. Oh well. :) ------------- Gleaner: the properly engineered and built combine. If you need parts for your Gleaner, we are parting out A's through L2's, so we may be able to help. |
Posted By: mtanut
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2016 at 6:12am
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After my grandma passed, we started cleaning up the farm because we were not sure what was going to happen here. I hauled 16 gooseneck loads in and that wasn't counting the junk we were still using. Pap kept everything, the depression made them have the feeling of you never know whats going to happen, and we can use it for parts. Problem is after all the years of sitting the stuff was rotted to nothing. As I try to evolve here with the equipment, I have been been trying to get rid of stuff that hasn't been used in years. ------------- I have a 185 Allis, 6060 Allis, Model K gleaner, SMTA ferg 35, ferg 20 (paps first tractor, Allis B (wife's)John Deere 240 skid loader and a bunch of the usual farm stuff. |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2016 at 7:01am
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We are told by the local Health Department not to leave tires lay around because of modquitoes. But there is a group that want to reflood the swamps that were drained years ago. Dusty
------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2016 at 4:25pm
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My dad lived through the depression too and he kept everything on the farm. We had a pile of rusted AC combines and AC choppers and various other steel machines parked back in the field. He might have needed a part off of them and was not one to scrap anything. You might need it tomorrow! On a farm my daughter purchased I came across a side delivery hay rake that has been swallowed up by small trees. I will try to get a picture some time. No idea why it got left there? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2016 at 4:30pm
| Chris around here it was really common to push old equipment off to the edge of the field and let brush grow up through it. One of those cases where you could get to it if you needed. The other thing you have to remember is around here there was no town dump before about the 50s so people just had a dump in the edge of the woods. There are two old fords from the 30s out back that I would like to see if I can rebuild a car our of some day. Always loved those big fenders. |