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7580 cab swap?

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    Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:44am
Ok guys as I sit in the 7580 disking, I can't help but ponder what it would take to graft a 4w cab onto this thing. Are the main frames the same width? Cables and hoods should be easy. Would the electric solenoid high/low valve fit on the original 7580 valve? Or just put the push buttons in the floor? Think it would be cool, and be much more operator friendly!
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7060 prototype
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The 8000 cabs are much wider, so I doubt the mountings are the same.  I don't think the 8000s had the buttons on the floor either.  It's a nice dream, but I think it would take a lot more to get everything to work properly.
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PD valve on 4w220 and 8000's is different, and mounts on the side of the transmission instead of the top to make room for the cab.
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Are the transmission castings the same. Could one swap the 4w/8000 series valve onto the 7580's? Or to make it simpler, just swap a powershift into it! Lol
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the hardest part would be finding an 8000 donor cab cheap enough. They only made 175 220s
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4w305 should be the same cab.
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Yes they are.
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Originally posted by peterson peterson wrote:

Are the transmission castings the same. Could one swap the 4w/8000 series valve onto the 7580's? Or to make it simpler, just swap a powershift into it! Lol

my son and I may take a shot at putting a power shift into a 7580 this summer. If we do, I'll be posting about it on here. Darrel
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ahhhhhh....someone else...that don't gots nuff to do! lol
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I was going to invite you up to help us SHAMELESS, cause I know you don't have enough to do. But if you helped us out, it probably wouldn't have brakes that worked when we got done. Lol.Darrel
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Installing a Power Shift into a Power Director chassis will result in a speed reduction in road gear, and all HIGH Range gear selections....about 20% slower in all.
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It will go in there, though. ........? Darrel
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Man that prototype looked sweet. should of just rolled with that. I never liked the 8000 series hood as much
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My cousin put a 8000 series cab on a 7040 and it looked amazing you couldn't tell it wasn't factory.
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Originally posted by DIESEL DIESEL wrote:

My cousin put a 8000 series cab on a 7040 and it looked amazing you couldn't tell it wasn't factory.

PICS? My idea is to take a 8070 powershift fwa and make it a 7080 open station. Man that would look awesome!!!


Now for putting a powershift into the 7580. According to the agco parts book the powerdirector trans casting is the same between7580 and 7060. So a powershift should "bolt" in. Only thing is the PTO/hydraulic straight shaft is different between the two. So if the 7060's is shorter, have a new longer coupler made to couple the drop box to the powershift. That was my idea.
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Yes pictures of that please. Would love to see that.
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Wish I could get you some but he bought an 8070, so the 7040 didn't get used much for a couple of years and he traded it in on a new Rowse v-rake. I could of cried when I found out I would have loved to own that tractor.
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