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Topic: 7580 cab swap?
Posted By: Peterson
Subject: 7580 cab swap?
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:44am
Ok guys as I sit in the 7580 disking, I can't help but ponder what it would take to graft a 4w cab onto this thing. Are the main frames the same width? Cables and hoods should be easy. Would the electric solenoid high/low valve fit on the original 7580 valve? Or just put the push buttons in the floor? Think it would be cool, and be much more operator friendly!

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2



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Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:46am
7060 prototype http://s460.photobucket.com/user/17cumminsboy/media/IMG_104576574044943_zpsvk7u9aah.jpeg.html" rel="nofollow">

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:56am
The 8000 cabs are much wider, so I doubt the mountings are the same.  I don't think the 8000s had the buttons on the floor either.  It's a nice dream, but I think it would take a lot more to get everything to work properly.

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'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080


Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:17pm
PD valve on 4w220 and 8000's is different, and mounts on the side of the transmission instead of the top to make room for the cab.


Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:22pm
Are the transmission castings the same. Could one swap the 4w/8000 series valve onto the 7580's? Or to make it simpler, just swap a powershift into it! Lol

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 3:41pm
the hardest part would be finding an 8000 donor cab cheap enough. They only made 175 220s

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Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 4:42pm
4w305 should be the same cab.

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 8:49pm
Yes they are.

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Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 10:43pm
Originally posted by peterson peterson wrote:

Are the transmission castings the same. Could one swap the 4w/8000 series valve onto the 7580's? Or to make it simpler, just swap a powershift into it! Lol

my son and I may take a shot at putting a power shift into a 7580 this summer. If we do, I'll be posting about it on here. Darrel


Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:16pm
ahhhhhh....someone else...that don't gots nuff to do! lol


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 7:02am
I was going to invite you up to help us SHAMELESS, cause I know you don't have enough to do. But if you helped us out, it probably wouldn't have brakes that worked when we got done. Lol.Darrel


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 7:27am
Installing a Power Shift into a Power Director chassis will result in a speed reduction in road gear, and all HIGH Range gear selections....about 20% slower in all.


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 1:08pm
It will go in there, though. ........? Darrel


Posted By: Dmpaul89
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 2:16pm
Man that prototype looked sweet. should of just rolled with that. I never liked the 8000 series hood as much


Posted By: DIESEL
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 2:24pm
My cousin put a 8000 series cab on a 7040 and it looked amazing you couldn't tell it wasn't factory.


Posted By: Peterson
Date Posted: 20 May 2016 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by DIESEL DIESEL wrote:

My cousin put a 8000 series cab on a 7040 and it looked amazing you couldn't tell it wasn't factory.

PICS? My idea is to take a 8070 powershift fwa and make it a 7080 open station. Man that would look awesome!!!


Now for putting a powershift into the 7580. According to the agco parts book the powerdirector trans casting is the same between7580 and 7060. So a powershift should "bolt" in. Only thing is the PTO/hydraulic straight shaft is different between the two. So if the 7060's is shorter, have a new longer coupler made to couple the drop box to the powershift. That was my idea.

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7095-685I at 255hp, 8070-225HP,8050-210Hp,8030 with 155HP,220 with 670T engine with A-pump, 7580, 185 with 140HP, 2-6080's,6070, S4 D17,wd45,CA,st34 agco, S1 D17 with 3500MK2


Posted By: joe
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 6:17am
Yes pictures of that please. Would love to see that.


Posted By: DIESEL
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 11:37pm
Wish I could get you some but he bought an 8070, so the 7040 didn't get used much for a couple of years and he traded it in on a new Rowse v-rake. I could of cried when I found out I would have loved to own that tractor.



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