7060 won't start

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   My uncle bought a 7060 that was only putting out 125 horsepower.  We suspected the injection pump and pulled it off to be rebuilt.  We timed the tractor to 18 degrees BTDC, in the window on the pump there was only a dimple on the rotor instead of the typical line.  We assumed that was the timing mark as it lined up with the 18 degrees on the motor.  We put the rebuilt pump back on, this time it has the full line to time the pump.  we are getting fuel to the end of the injection lines and a little smoke, but the engine does not even try to start.  If anybody knows a secret or has an idea, please let me know

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old mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Idaho Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote old mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 7060 won't start Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 12:41pm
	My uncle bought a 7060 that was only putting out 125 horsepower. We suspected the injection pump and pulled it off to be rebuilt. We timed the tractor to 18 degrees BTDC, in the window on the pump there was only a dimple on the rotor instead of the typical line. We assumed that was the timing mark as it lined up with the 18 degrees on the motor. We put the rebuilt pump back on, this time it has the full line to time the pump. we are getting fuel to the end of the injection lines and a little smoke, but the engine does not even try to start. If anybody knows a secret or has an idea, please let me know

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Bob D. (La) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Louisiana Points: 25529	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bob D. (La) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 12:44pm
	Don't really know mack. But many times on this forum, people have similar problems after reinstalling pump. Those that know usually tell them it is 180 out on timing. Hopefully, one of the experts will see this and give you some better input.
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old mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Idaho Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote old mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 1:30pm
	We tried it 180 out as well, not much change. Then we pulled the valve covers again, found TDC on #1 compression stroke and found that we were correct the first time. I was wondering if even though it was running when we pulled the pump, could the injectors be bad?

DougG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8355	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 2:47pm
	Na, it would start and run a little, it was running before, theres air somewhere, did you take the bolt out of the pump housing and bleed it there? If it has the electric shut off make sure thats working correctly, i always get the air out of the pump, then crack a couple lines and get fuel through them then bleed the others while its running , a little shot of either comes in handy too Edited by DougG - 21 Aug 2012 at 2:51pm

MACK Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Points: 7664	Post Options Post Reply Quote MACK Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 10:08pm
	Remove pump gear then remove #1 inj. line at pump. Apply at least 50lbs of clean air into #1 fitting in pump and rotate pump drive by hand until pump stops. At that time pump is at start of injection and marks in timing window should be inline. MACK

Adam Stratton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SW MO Points: 1363	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam Stratton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Aug 2012 at 10:29pm
	Are you absolutely sure your harmonic balancer is in good shape? We found out the marks on the pulley were actually incorrect with the motor time, then went from there. You might check that too. I dont think the injectors could be at fault if it was running before.

dorr Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Jul 2012 Location: StJames MO Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote dorr Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 6:26am
	make sure your batt, is up good to if the eng, turns over slow it will be harder to start(learned the hard way lol) i e dont build press quick enough to fire injectorsall the way

old mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 06 Mar 2012 Location: Idaho Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote old mack Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 10:37am
	Thanks for the ideas everybody. We were wondering if there is supposed to be fuel in the top hat part of the pump where the return line hooks in. We pulled the line off there and took out the valve and don't have any fuel.