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Acdiesel 
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 Topic: 7060 HYD. IMP. QUESTION
Posted: 15 Apr 2019 at 8:29pm |
BUDDY'S GOT A J.D. 12 ROW CORN PLANTER WITH 2 PRESSURE LINES AND A RETURN,HAS ANYBODY GOT ANY GOOD WAYS TO HOOK UP THE OPEN RETURN TO TANK LINE ON THE 7000 SERIES TRACTOR'S OTHER THEN DUMPING IT IN THE FILL PLUG HOLE, AT THE REAR END?
THANKS FOR ANY IDEAS.
DAN
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 7:06am |
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Lower sight glass for one place, which is easy to do. The metal cover plate below the PTO and above the drawbar could be drilled and tapped into for a Pioneer coupler off to one side.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 8:18am |
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If you're dealing with a vac planter post back how it works out. "They" say 7-8000's don't have enough hydraulics to run one.....
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Acdiesel
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Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 10:43am |
great thanks for the tips. not a vac system.
dan
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210Postin
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Posted: 16 Apr 2019 at 9:16pm |
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They will run a single motor, but not two dont leave much to run the rest of planter.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 10:30am |
 210Postin wrote:
They will run a single motor, but not two dont leave much to run the rest of planter. |
Thanks for sharing about the Vacuum planter motor issue. What factors contribute to the AC tractors’ issue with this?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 11:38am |
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I'm assuming that 23 GPM doesn't meet todays new planter specs. Most modern day tractors are more than 50 GPM and some near 80 GPM's.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 12:13pm |
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I don't get it but certainly don't know all facts. Read online somewhere specs on those fan motors taking 4gpm. Is that right? If true,how does that max out hydraulics? Is there not enough left to raise it? I know there are several lift cylinders.
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210Postin
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 8:33pm |
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Well a 7200 16 row with two blowers will take around 15 gal just for blowers ,have a pump doc pump on a 8050 ,pto pump cooler and flow controls to run mine .Tractor hyd run lift and markers thats how we run ours.
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Unit3
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:56pm |
IF, if you were running GPS and Field IQ to turn on and off the planter, once you cross the inside end row, the meters will stop. If you turned off the valve for the motors, would the seed fall away from the vac plates? If not, could you turn off the motor valve, raise the maker(if used) then raise the planter? We run a blue finger pickup planter and I know that doesn't count for much these days.
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 1:46am |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
If you're dealing with a vac planter post back how it works out. "They" say 7-8000's don't have enough hydraulics to run one..... |
Meanwhile there is a guy in SW KS running a 16 row central fill White with a 8070. :) He admits he shuts down the central fill blower to lift it on the ends though. Pressure planters take alot less hydraulics to run, much more friendly for older tractors.
Edited by GM Guy - 18 Apr 2019 at 2:04am
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Posted: 18 Apr 2019 at 9:50am |
Unit3 wrote:
IF, if you were running GPS and Field IQ to turn on and off the planter, once you cross the inside end row, the meters will stop. If you turned off the valve for the motors, would the seed fall away from the vac plates? If not, could you turn off the motor valve, raise the maker(if used) then raise the planter? We run a blue finger pickup planter and I know that doesn't count for much these days. |
Yes, seed will fall off the discs as soon as vacuum drops off. I pull a 6 row 1750 JD vac planter with my 8010-works decent, but vacuum drops quite low when I raise and lower the planter, so I don't think you could run 2 vac motors as found on bigger planters. If I need a bigger planter I would use a PTO pump to run vacuum motors or buy a finger planter. IMO a well maintained finger planter works as good as a vac planter. I had to replace a vac motor last year-not cheap.
Edited by lentsch - 18 Apr 2019 at 10:00am
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Posted: 30 May 2020 at 3:52pm |
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Funny this just came up again, just had a neighbor ask this am if his 8070 had enough hyd to run a 16 row. He has a 12 now but wants to go to 16, would be a White planter, I know nothing about them, just this question.
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210Postin
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Posted: 30 May 2020 at 10:42pm |
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Well we run a 6122 white bean planter 12 23 with the small pto pump to run the blowers has to be run at rated speed for 2.5 at gauges
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